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Rolf Furuli’s analysis of the evidence behind the Supreme Court judgment in the Jehovah’s Witnesses vs the State case

AN ANALYSIS OF THE EVIDENCE MATERIAL THAT FORMED THE BASIS FOR THE SUPREME COURT JUDGMENT IN THE CASE BETWEEN JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES AND THE STATE

MY BACKGROUND

I was baptised as a Jehovah’s Witness in 1961. For 15 years I was a travelling overseer for Jehovah’s Witnesses.
In 1974 and 1975 I was a teacher at 30 two-week courses for all elders in Norway. Afterwards I was a presiding overseer and coordinator for 35 years in the Majorstua congregation in Oslo. After we moved to Stavern, I served as an elder in the Torstrand congregation in Larvik, until I was disfellowshipped in 2020 because I criticised certain decisions made by the Governing Body. I share the same faith as Jehovah’s Witnesses except for the matters in which I have criticised the leaders, and I consider myself one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

I hold a Master’s degree in Semitic languages with Greek and Latin, and a doctorate in Semitic linguistics and culture. I have taught at the University of Oslo in various Semitic languages, and I have written 13 books and more than 300 articles.

I have written this presentation to show that I have in-depth knowledge of Jehovah’s Witnesses and an academic background that enables me to conduct studies in accordance with scientific principles. I strive to treat the material in a factual and honest manner.

My discussion of Jehovah’s Witnesses’ teachings and practices in connection with disfellowshipping and resignation has a critical aspect. However, there is no conflict of interest, because in my writings I describe Jehovah’s Witnesses in a positive way, as the only Christian denomination whose beliefs and teachings are in all essential respects directly based on the Bible.

The Religious Communities Act § 6 states:
If a religious or philosophical community, or individuals acting on behalf of the community, use violence or coercion, issue threats, violate children’s rights, breach statutory anti-discrimination laws, or otherwise seriously violate others’ rights and freedoms, the community may be denied or have reduced state subsidies. Subsidies may also be denied or reduced if the community encourages or supports such violations.

Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights:
Freedom of thought, conscience and religion
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance.
In this study I do not address issues related to negative social control and violations of children’s rights. However, I will present data from Jehovah’s Witnesses’ literature that may shed light on whether treatment of those who resign violates the right to freely leave under Article 9 of the ECHR.

There is agreement among the judges that those who resign are treated in the same way as those who have been disfellowshipped. This means that active congregation members shun those who resign, except in cases where contact is unavoidable.

Supreme Court Justice Thomas Chr. Poulsen raised three fundamental questions that may determine whether Jehovah’s Witnesses violate members’ right to freely resign:
Can the treatment of those who resign—being shunned—be perceived as punishment?

Is the treatment of those who resign based on a command or instruction from the religious community, or is it based on individual conscience?

Is the treatment so severe that it may be seen as undue pressure preventing resignation?

I will now discuss these questions in light of what Jehovah’s Witnesses’ literature states.

The conclusion is that the majority judgment is partly based on incorrect information, and a significant reason for this is that Jehovah’s Witnesses have deliberately attempted to mislead the District Court, the Court of Appeal, and the Supreme Court.

WITNESSES WHO RESIGN ARE PUNISHED FOR THEIR ACTION

Supreme Court Justice Thomas Chr. Poulsen pointed to a relevant part of the preparatory works:
(172) The purpose of imposing negative consequences may also be relevant. As stated in the preparatory works, “punishment of persons who leave the community” is an example of violation of others’ rights.
The treatment of disfellowshipped and resigned persons is discussed together in the judgment. However, I will separately examine the purpose of shunning those who resign.

In 1952, The Watchtower contained articles stating that disfellowshipped persons should be shunned. No one should speak to them or have any contact at all. Three reasons are given in Watch Tower literature for this:
To maintain pure worship and show obedience to Jehovah.

To protect the congregation from spiritual and moral contamination.

To pressure the sinner to repent through isolation from family and friends.

The first two points concern the basis for disfellowshipping. The third concerns the treatment of disfellowshipped persons. The reason isolation must not be broken is that even minimal contact is believed to weaken the pressure placed on the disfellowshipped person.

However, if a Witness resigns from the congregation, none of these three reasons apply, since the person has taken a clear stand against Jehovah’s Witnesses. Therefore, it is natural to ask why resigned persons should be shunned.

Until 1985, those who resigned were treated like all non-Witnesses, and no congregational action was taken. The change was expressed in The Watchtower of 15 July 1985.

The Aid to Bible Understanding states that “apostasy” comes from a Greek word meaning “standing away,” but also “abandoning or rebelling.” It adds that those who deliberately leave the Christian congregation become part of “Antichrist” (1 John 2:18,19).

A person who formally withdraws fits this description. By rejecting God’s congregation, he becomes an apostate. A loyal Christian should not associate with such a person.
The Bible shows that someone who rejects God’s congregation is more blameworthy than people in the world. Paul said Christians should not associate with someone claiming to be a brother who lives immorally. Peter compared such a person to a pig returning to its mire.

John said Christians should not receive such a person into their homes. Anyone greeting him becomes a sharer in his wicked works.
This text shows the basis for shunning those who resign: they are described as “antichrist,” worse than immoral people and idolaters.
Since no other reason is given, the requirement to shun them must be understood as punishment for resigning.

THE TREATMENT OF THOSE WHO RESIGN IS BASED ON A COMMAND, NOT INDIVIDUAL CONSCIENCE

Supreme Court Justice Poulsen stated that it matters whether social consequences are imposed through organisational instruction or individual choice.
There is disagreement on this issue. One judge concluded it is a rule-based directive; another that it is a matter of conscience.

In what follows, I will show that Jehovah’s Witnesses have misled the courts by presenting this as a matter of individual conscience, when in reality it is a requirement imposed by the Governing Body.

I will first explain what “conscience matter” means.
Aid to Bible Understanding explains that matters such as eating meat or observing days were conscience matters because no law existed.

Within Jehovah’s Witnesses today, however, conscience matters are only those not regulated by Scripture or by Governing Body directives.

THE BAN ON CERTAIN SEXUAL PRACTICES BETWEEN MARRIED COUPLES

For 27 years, sexual conduct within marriage was a conscience matter. Then in 1973, oral and anal sex were prohibited and became grounds for disfellowshipping.
Later policies changed repeatedly:
1974: grounds for disfellowshipping
1978: returned to conscience matter
1983: again disfellowshipping offence
2026: no longer a disfellowshipping offence
This shows that what is called a “conscience matter” depends on Governing Body decisions.

BLOOD FRACTIONS VERSUS WHOLE BLOOD

The Governing Body forbids whole blood and major components, while allowing blood fractions as a conscience matter.
However, refusal to comply can still lead to disfellowshipping, showing that the distinction is controlled by organisational authority.

DECEPTION OF THE COURTS

Jehovah’s Witness literature clearly states that disfellowshipped and resigned persons are to be shunned.
Yet in court it was argued that treatment of such persons is based on individual conscience.
No such statement exists in official literature.
Therefore, this claim is false.

JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES’ LEADERS CONFIRM THE PRACTICE

During the Australian Royal Commission (2015), leaders confirmed that those who resign or are disfellowshipped lose family and social ties.
They acknowledged that leaving the organisation can be personally devastating.
This demonstrates that resignation results in loss of social network.

IS THIS UNDUE PRESSURE?

The consequences of resignation clearly create strong pressure not to leave.
Whether this constitutes a violation of Article 9 is for the courts to decide.

FAMILY BONDS ARE NOT BROKEN – A QUALIFIED TRUTH

The court stated that family bonds are not broken.
However, while legal bonds remain, most social and emotional bonds are effectively severed or severely restricted.

IMPACT ON CHILDREN

Children who are disfellowshipped or resign experience:
social isolation
loss of friendships
loss of extended family contact
emotional distress
belief that they are condemned by God
This can have severe psychological consequences.

CONCLUSION

The study addresses three questions:
Shunning constitutes punishment
It is based on organisational command, not conscience
It creates undue pressure not to resign
Jehovah’s Witnesses have, in this view, misled the courts regarding their actual practices.

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u/larchington — 4 hours ago
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There's a key difference between the English version of the Norway victory article on JW org and the Norwegian version which shows they know they are lying...

In the English version of the JW org news article about the Norwegian Supreme Court ruling they say "the government violated the religious freedom of Jehovah's Witnesses when it deregistered our national legal entity."

The Norwegian version correctly says the State deregistered the religion itself.

Those are not the same thing.

The Norwegian State did NOT dissolve a JW legal corporation. It removed JW from the state registry for religious communities because of their shunning practices involving baptized minors.

Interesting that the wording is only changed in English but not Norwegian, where locals would immediately spot the deception.

Here you can see ask the announcements regarding JW legal identity. You will see there is nothing about any deregistration of JW legal identity:

https://w2.brreg.no/kunngjoring/hent_nr.jsp?orgnr=879492742

To see for yourself, go to the article on JW org (in the News section) in Norwegian, and translate the text to English.

They know that they are lying.

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With thanks to Jan Frode Nilsen for this information.

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u/larchington — 17 hours ago
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Norway's Vart Land has a full page piece in print today by Jan Frode Nilsen

Celebration at journey’s end

The year-long dispute between the Norwegian state and Jehovah'sWitnesses has now come to an end.

I have been a part of this entire journey, and it has been unbelievably long and eventful. I have testified in the witness box three times in three years, and now finally got to sit in the hall when everything was concluded in the Norwegian Supreme Court. 

Last Thursday we received the verdict. The Supreme Court chose 3 to 2 to annul the entire process.

I am not a lawyer, but someone who has experienced the whole process from the inside, with an upbringing and half a life as a Jehovah's Witness, and active participation in court. When I read the judgment, I note this:

• The Supreme Court has now ruled that the word "disfellowshipping and shunning" is the most descriptive words for the practice, and that Jehovah's Witnesses' own use of words undercommunicates. The Supreme Court cuts through the whitewashed language. I note that Vårt Land in its editorial chooses to follow the Supreme Court and use the word that best "expresses the consequences and seriousness". From now on, I will also use the word I grew up with, the word that describes me and my friends. Disfellowshipped and shunned.

 The Supreme Court states that there is no protection against negative social control, neither in Norwegian legislation nor in the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Nor as a condition for a payment of tax money. The Supreme Court sets the list of things that are criminalized in Norway, such as honour-based violence and forced genital mutilation. Section 6 of the Religious Communities Act is thus stone dead, these are things the police should handle, not the County Governor.

 The Supreme Court points out that "the process appears more gentle than before" and cites the Watchtower's adjustment of the practice in 2024, i.e. several years after the decision from the State was made, as an argument that the same decision was wrong. There is a direct correlation between the State's decision and the adjusted practice, the adjustment came when Jehovah's Witnesses lost in the District Court in 2024, which on the contrary shows the value of the decision that the Supreme Court now annulled. 

 The Supreme Court writes "Given the potential the disfellowshipping process has to affect the mental health of minors, I will not rule out that children's rights may be considered violated in individual cases", but they call for documentation of the extent. They state that the practice can destroy children's mental health, butreject that the state can use §6 to prevent as was politically desired when the law was written. When you have a documented practice that obviously entails a risk of harm to children's mental health, which the Supreme Court "does not want to rule out", shouldn't the state have a responsibility to do something preventive, to protect these children before they become a numerical basis? The dissent argues against this by writing "it is sufficient that the society encourages such violations".

 It was the right to free withdrawal that divided the Supreme Court 3 against 2. Both parties confirm that the ECHR protects the right to free withdrawal, but the majority sets the bar high, referring to physical punishment or direct obstruction. Whipping apostates in the town square would justify intervention, to put it to the extreme. It is not enough to use family ties as an active, systematic lever for the court's majority.

Here, the minority has marked a strong dissent; "When a child knows that to opt out means that contact with their parents and any siblings... is actually radically changed—I believe that the pressure to refrain from withdrawal must be considered undue." 

 

What would you choose if you were forced? 50 lashes, or never again be able to talk to your closest family? Your own children? You tell me.

 

 The Supreme Court writes that they miss witness statements from those who have not yet dared to resign, but they forget that several of us as witnesses have actually been disfellowshipped and shun in the process. For my part, I told my story while I was still a paper member. I was then disfellowshipped shortly afterwards. There is an uninterrupted line from that process at the time and into the witness box. Witness Rolf Furuli, who triggered the first investigative case, was also disfellowshipped and shunned when he began to talk about his views. Several of us started this process as witnesses, but such things are perishable. You are disfellowshipped shortly afterwards. In other words, they demand a completely fresh victim, someone who in the witness box is willing to blow the last remnants of family ties, there and then. Those who have not resigned yet have a reason for it. By appearing as a witness, they will lose what is holding them in. I myselfknow of several who wanted to do it, but couldn't. What right does the Supreme Court have to demand such a sacrifice from individuals in life crises? Do they not understand that it is impossible to bear witness to the fear of disfellowshipping without at the same time becoming just that?  Disfellowshipped and shunned

 

There is a lot here that is difficult to read. The Supreme Court's majority has swallowed a great deal of Jehovah's Witnesses' legally adapted whitewashing of the practice, presented by skilled lawyers. They show a cold distance, without understanding of the complexity, what it is actually like to be a small human being trapped in this spiderweb with no way out. 

But there we meet a completely different understanding now, out among the people in society. And that is where the victory after this journey lies for us.

For four years, we have received the full attention of Jehovah's Witnesses, at the very top level, enough to adjust their practices and remove much of their worst material. Light that gave new light.

 

For four years, we got the media's attention. We got chronicles and interviews published, new voices were added, new fates. New voices to the choir.

 

For four years, we created a sense of unity. An arena where we found each other and lifted each other. Out of the loneliness, exclusion and shame, into a sense of pride. An identity where we own our story as disfellowshipped and shunned who dare to speak up. A whole world of shunned people came together and shared the journey with us.  

 

Not in the shame and loneliness the system is designed for, but with pride and a shared identity as people who paid a high price to get out. A cost most people in this country never have to pay for anything. A price most people cannot even picture themselves everhave to pay.

I, and those who were on the journey with me are now celebrating that we, a bunch of disfellowshipped and shunned outcasts, managed to stand tall in this storm until the end of the journey. Together.

That’s a victory nobody can take away from us.

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u/larchington — 18 hours ago
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Imagine those Governing Body members whizzing about in space at angelic speed and meeting God! I bet they can't wait. They really can’t celebrate human achievement at all - space travel gets downgraded, with rockets and engineering treated as inferior to “angelic” travel. This article is still available in the WT online library as it is post 1950 Watchtower.

https://preview.redd.it/prj46babolzg1.jpg?width=451&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de8b3588ec42fb1458ca30365562257809812433

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u/larchington — 7 days ago
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https://preview.redd.it/noe72nhdclzg1.jpg?width=359&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cbe32c57080f57e5db4ac88d55f987cb64f3bcb

(Golden Age was the previous name of Awake! magazine.)

​I am reposting some old content for all the new people visiting this subreddit, helping those questioning (PIMQ*/coming out of JW or are wanting to get out (PIMO), or even those who left a while ago (POMI) but still think that this was "the Truth", and hopefully some current JW (PIMI), to see what God's "one true channel" have said over the years. Truth doesn't change, so when we see the contradictions and the clearly crazy stuff they've said it should make us wonder, if that was the truth then, is it the truth now?)

A lot of these older quotes I share are often dismissed as “old light” from earlier periods, but they form part of the organization’s development over time. Dismissing older literature as “old light” plays into the organization’s framing, because it shuts down critical thinking around examining how teachings have changed with shifting worldviews and political contexts of the time (sometimes complete reversals, and how the organization has arrived at its current doctrinal positions. Really, the organization, if chosen by, and directed by Jesus as they claim, should never have been influenced by world-views at all!)

We need to look at the organization’s historical material both to avoid being misled and to see what has actually been said over the years, including some extremely questionable statements.

You have to know the past to understand the present.

*PIMQPhysically In (JW) Mentally Questioning

PIMOPhysically In (JW) Mentally Out

POMIPhysically Out (JW) Mentally In

PIMI=  Physically In (JW) Mentally In

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u/larchington — 7 days ago
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https://www.vl.no/meninger/loven-ma-tydeliggjores/10328232

The law must be clarified

EDITOR: The dissent in the Supreme Court ruling in favor of Jehovah's Witnesses shows that the new Religious Communities Act must be clarified.

This is an editorial. The editor expresses the views of Vårt Lands.
The editor-in-chief is responsible for the content.

On Thursday, the verdict was handed down in the Supreme Court case between Jehovah's Witnesses and the state. With the new Religious Communities Act (2020) in hand, the state has denied the religious community registration and state support. The state states, among other things, that the practice of ostracizing the Witnesses violates the right to freely withdraw from religious communities.

When Jehovah's Witnesses, who are more distinctive in theology and practice than most, are released, it is probably experienced as an assurance of continued acceptance and state support for many.
The Witnesses would not accept this, and went to court. Now Jehovah's Witnesses have been found right: They are a legitimate religious community and therefore eligible for support.

Who should be supported?

With Thursday's verdict, more than just Jehovah's Witnesses are breathing a sigh of relief. Some conservative religious communities have probably felt slighted by the state in recent years. Part of the reason for this is more frequent school inspections, even if it has nothing to do with the Religious Communities Act. When Jehovah's Witnesses, who are more distinctive in their theology and practice than most, go free, it is probably experienced as an assurance of continued acceptance and state support for more people.

All parties in the Storting agree to pursue an active and supportive policy on faith and beliefs. This means that faith communities receive financial support. If you compare it to other countries, that support is generous. This ensures good religious freedom in Norway, it financially underpins all the fine words about diversity.

At the same time, everyone agrees that not everyone who wants money from the community should get it. We can allow quite a lot in a liberal society, without wanting to finance it.

Registration and support separately?

However, the new Religious Communities Act has made the registration of religious communities and support for religious communities two sides of the same coin. This means that an association that qualifies as a religious community automatically qualifies for financial support. This makes freedom of religion, which includes the right to organize according to one's beliefs, dependent on the financial support of the wider community.

It didn't have to be like this. If it were possible to register a religious community without thereby triggering financial support, Norway would have been able to safeguard full religious freedom without financing associations that are not considered to be socially beneficial.

The verdict was divided, as two out of five judges dissented. In itself, this is a sign that the law is not very clear. Law professor Vibeke Blaker Strand tells Vårt Land that the dissent may be due to ambiguities in the regulations themselves, and that the authorities must clarify the law. Strand believes that the verdict shows that the law's intention to impose stricter requirements on religious communities is not working.

It is very important for a liberal society that religious communities that believe conservative things, or things that deviate greatly from popular opinion, should exist under the same good conditions as other religious communities. But it is also important in a liberal society that we do not actively support practices that we believe are harmful.

The ostracism practices of Jehovah's Witnesses are not something the state should pour money into.

A change in the Religious Communities Act that distinguishes between registration and support would safeguard both religious freedom and the consideration of families that are currently being torn apart by disaffiliations.

u/larchington — 8 days ago
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I have seen a leaked letter to the elders in Brazil for May 2026. In it they are updated on donations in Brazil. In the last 2 years the donations haven't been sufficient to cover expenses and monthly financial support is being received from the world headquarters.

Elders are told no announcement is to be made to congregations, and that nobody should be pressured to donate, but elders are to "be positive in reminding publishers, when appropriate, of the privilege each one has of "honoring Jehovah with their valuable things" and of contributing "as he has resolved in the heart."

The elders are thanked for their collaboration on this important matter.

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u/larchington — 11 days ago
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In the words of George Orwell:

All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary

But The Wayback machine remembers...

https://preview.redd.it/bd8gyh9h0iyg1.jpg?width=1272&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7c684dab709f39afd2589c169e97f8a3fc5f0c4

When you look at the same page now, you'll see what's missing:

https://preview.redd.it/6vgtik2j0iyg1.jpg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32a9c78e5b64a611b915bc016e80c84f268bf3f2

You can do a search for blood, or blood fractions etc and get the reference to this Kingdom Ministry...

https://preview.redd.it/k2hculgx0iyg1.jpg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e99bd9535e63281b84c8d310f70f23ff42af0c51

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But what happens when you click on the references?...

THIS:

Yes that's a blank page

More references to the document, which lead to a blank page:

https://preview.redd.it/48jz03z53iyg1.jpg?width=860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d4bca5dcd031f598da2eb394392a150951a65a6

You can also still find this reference to it on JW org:

https://preview.redd.it/ek9u3iz41iyg1.jpg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7142090f3db96953555c3501e4a10461c426845a

But what do you get when you click on the link?

THIS:

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Ironically the now deleted insert had the instruction to "SAVE" it!

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You won't find this anymore

More words from George Orwell's 1984

The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth

So if you want a copy, it's here, just scroll down to the November edition:

http://www.watchtowerwayback.org/jw-wb/English/Our%20Kingdom%20Ministry/2006%20Our%20Kingdom%20Ministry.pdf

I wonder what will disappear next...

One more Orwell quote to conclude:

Who controls the past controls the future: who

controls the present controls the past

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u/larchington — 13 days ago
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We can assume the latest episodes of the JW video series The Good News According to Jesus will be scary for kids. 

Mark Sanderson says episodes 4-6 which will be played at the 2026 convention, are available to view and download on the JW website and app from today. He says they’re leaving it up to each family to decide whether to watch them before the convention.

He says “This adjustment” allows parents the chance to talk over what’s in the videos with their children in advance. 

He says that parents should read the Bible accounts with their children, perhaps during family worship and to remind them that these bible accounts are there to show how Jesus is more powerful than demons and that there is nothing to fear from wicked spirits.

Back in the May 2020 JW Broadcasting, Stephen Lett said they’d had a few parents writing in expressing concern about their videos depicting scenes that could have an effect on children (and then kinda blames the parents for shielding them from seeing anything portraying acts of violence!)

https://reddit.com/link/1t0onhm/video/4uil7uo5vhyg1/player

This was  later reiterated by Anthony Morris III in 2020.

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In Sweden, a Jehovah’s Witness convention in 2018 included the public screening of dramatized Bible videos to audiences that included children. Authorities argued the material should have been submitted to the Swedish Media Council (Statens medieråd) for age classification under national film law. The case went to court, where it was found that the videos had been shown publicly without the required classification. The conviction was upheld on appeal, with the court concluding that applying film classification rules in this context did not violate protections for freedom of religion or expression, since the material was being publicly exhibited in a way comparable to film screenings under Swedish law.

Translate in browser 

https://www.domstol.se/en/nyheter/2020/02/dom-i-mal-om-offentlig-visning-av-film-for-barn/

In Quebec, a similar case involving a convention drama (“The Story of Josiah: Love Jehovah, Hate Evil”) initially resulted in a fine for failing to submit the video for film classification. However, in 2023 the Court of Quebec ruled in favor of Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Canada, finding that applying film classification law to religious teaching videos shown during worship would infringe constitutional protections for freedom of religion, expression, and parental rights.

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https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1989856/temoins-jehovah-loi-cinema-quebec

The organization has put out some pretty terrifying content for kids in recent years. These are screenshots from 2017's Remember the Wife of Lot, played at conventions.

https://preview.redd.it/tmijqmzjxhyg1.jpg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebd8065c62f915670b4e801c369ecbe095ffe99f

https://preview.redd.it/dx4no6rkxhyg1.jpg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1efb794676884e152cccb660376acb28f9379de9

I guess we find out later today if the new Jesus videos are as scary as this!

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u/larchington — 13 days ago
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https://www.vl.no/nyheter/trosministeren-skuffet-over-dommen/10325967

Minister of Religion: –

Disappointed by the verdict

SUPREME COURT: Minister of Children and Family Lene Vågslid says it is too early to say anything about the consequences of the Supreme Court's verdict in the case Jehovah's Witnesses have brought against the state.

DISAPPOINTED: Lene Vågslid does not hide that she hoped for a different outcome in the Supreme Court case

– I must admit that I am disappointed by the verdict, says Minister of Children and Family Lene Vågslid to Vårt Land. Vågslid is responsible for religious and life-belief policy in Norway.

In 2021, Jehovah's Witnesses were denied subsidies and registration as a religious community by the State Administrator in Oslo and Viken.

Vågslid says that the original decision to deprive the religious community of registration and subsidies was based on the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses' exclusion practices violate children's rights and the right to freely join and leave religious communities.

– The intention of the state has been to protect vulnerable groups, children and people who were ostracized by their own religious community, says Vågslid.

She says that the ministry takes note that the Supreme Court disagrees with the state's assessment, but points out that the case was decided under dissent 3-2, and believes this shows that it is a difficult case.

Vågslid will not immediately answer what the consequences of the verdict will be, and believes it is too early to say.

– The verdict is comprehensive, and we need time to familiarize ourselves with it, says Vågslid.

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Some encouraging news after today’s events.

https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/parliamentary-group-planned-to-review-religious-organisations-charity-status.html

A UK Labour MP, Sam Carling who is a former Jehovah’s Witness is proposing an APPG (All Party Parliamentary Group) to look at abuse linked to religious organisations and gaps in UK charity law. He argues that some groups use charitable status in ways that can cause harm, and that stronger safeguards are needed.

He argues that some organizations with charitable status are causing harm, citing examples highlighted in a National Secular Society report, including cases involving harmful teachings about women and abuse. He says reforms are needed to strengthen regulation and prevent misuse of charitable status.

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…says the religious community’s spokesperson after they won in the Supreme Court.

SUPREME COURT: Spokesperson Jørgen Pedersen of Jehovah's Witnesses was present when the case between Jehovah's Witnesses and the state was heard in the Supreme Court on February 5-7, 2026. It is now clear that Jehovah's Witnesses won. Erlend Berge

– We are grateful that the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Jehovah's Witnesses, says Jehovah's Witnesses spokesperson Jørgen Pedersen, shortly after it became clear that the religious community had won in the Supreme Court.

On Thursday, it became clear that the country's highest court ruled in favor of Jehovah's Witnesses in that they are entitled to state subsidies and registration as a religious community, in a process that has been ongoing since they first lost their state subsidies in 2021.

The verdict was handed down in dissent, with three judges against two.

- This lengthy administrative and legal process has greatly affected the lives of the more than 12,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway, and the final decision confirms their reputation as loving, caring and law-abiding citizens of Norway, says Pedersen in a statement to Vårt Land.

Lawyer: - Not surprised

Jehovah's Witnesses' lawyer Anders Stray Ryssdal calls the Supreme Court's ruling a broad review of the importance of religious freedom.

- It is also very pleasing for Jehovah's Witnesses that a majority in the Supreme Court determines that their practice falls within the scope of religious freedom. It is not a violation of Norwegian law, says Ryssdal

WON: Attorney Anders Stray Ryssdal has represented Jehovah's Witnesses in all three courts. Sindre Deschington

He believes the verdict may also be relevant to other religious communities that have been in similar situations.

- I think it shows that there is a lot to do before state authorities can intervene in the practice of faith in religious communities, whether they are large or small. Implicitly, it is a warning to the authorities.

- Was it an expected outcome?

- I am not particularly surprised by the outcome, since we won in the Court of Appeal, says Ryssdal.

Ryssdal also points out that the verdict that was announced on Friday has a greater principled dimension, since it characterizes the cases that the Supreme Court takes on.

Represented the state: - The case was not obvious

THE STATE: Government Attorney Liv Inger Gjone Gabrielsen represented the state in the case against Jehovah's Witnesses. Erlend Berge

Liv-Inger Gjone Gabrielsen has led the case for the Ministry of Children and Family Affairs, and explains that the ministry is satisfied that the case has been thoroughly examined by the Supreme Court.

– The fact that the verdict is not unanimous shows that the case has not been clear-cut. The ministry and the State Administrator will now begin work on preparing new decisions that follow up on the verdict, says Gabrielse.

https://www.vl.no/nyheter/vant-fram-i-hoyesterett-vi-er-takknemlige/10325732

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The ruling is 38 pages long and there is a 20 image limit on posts here on Reddit. I'll share the first 20 here and the rest in the comments.

Here's a quote:

“In my opinion, the interference entailed by the refusal of registration is proportionate. First, I emphasize that the interference is not particularly far-reaching. It does not entail any ban on the activities of Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway, which may continue as before. Nor does it deprive the religious community of its status as an independent legal entity or its legal capacity. Although the refusal of registration means that Jehovah's Witnesses no longer have the right to perform marriages, it is still possible to enter into a religious marriage within the congregation. The fact that the rules on confidentiality regarding confessions do not apply carries some weight, but this too cannot be considered particularly burdensome. I have also noted that the government is considering proposing changes to the regulations on this point, so that the duty of confidentiality will also apply to religious communities that have lost their registration, cf. the Ministry of Children and Families' consultation paper of August 18, 2025, section 4.2.2.

On the other hand, consideration for the rights of others that is, the right to leave a religious community-must carry significant weight. The right to leave a religious community is part of the freedom of religion, which enjoys particularly strong protection. The practices of Jehovah's Witnesses involve using close relationships as a means of pressure to prevent members from leaving. This is particularly problematic when it comes to children.

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u/larchington — 13 days ago
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PUBLISHED 3/04/26 - 12:51

LAST UPDATED 3/26/04 - 3:25 PM

- "It's disappointing," says former Jehovah's Witness Jan Frode Nilsen.

He reads aloud from the ruling while on the phone with Dagen.

- It was two judges to three, so a very narrow margin. But it's very disappointing, Nilsen repeats.

The prominent Jehovah's Witnesses critic is known for having come forward with stories of social isolation and broken family ties after he left the religious community in 2019.

He must now acknowledge that there was no victory in the Supreme Court.

- It comes down to the burden of proof-that is, there is insufficient evidence that children's rights are being violated.

Government Attorney Liv-Inger Gone Gabrielsen, who represented the state in the case, also emphasizes that two justices dissented from the Supreme Court's ruling.

The Ministry of Children and Families is pleased that the case has been thoroughly reviewed by the Supreme Court. The fact that the ruling was not unanimous shows that the case was not straightforward. The Ministry and the State Administrator will now begin work on preparing new decisions in accordance with the ruling, Gabrielsen writes in an email to Dagen.

A Positive Note

Nilsen has been a key voice in the process that led to Jehovah's Witnesses losing state funding in Norway, and he has testified in court cases against the religious community three times.

The critic is nevertheless not entirely surprised by the outcome:

- "It's a difficult case. When two judges issue dissenting opinions, it's a very close call. And in that sense, this is an acknowledgment," says Nilsen.

And he believes that the legal process has had a positive impact on the religious community.

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- Jehovah's Witnesses say they have adjusted a good deal of their practices. There are still problematic issues, but the entire international community of former Witnesses sees the changes that have been made in Norway.

- "Perhaps it's because they see that it has created legal problems, but perhaps some within Jehovah's Witnesses have also realized that this is going too far and that they can't stand behind it," Nilsen wonders.

-The most important change they've made is to move away from having a disciplinary committee deal with children under 18.

Now it's the parents who are supposed to have these conversations with their children, and that was completely unthinkable a few years ago, says Nilsen.

- Can't say it out loud

Sigrid Olsen grew up without Christmas celebrations or birthdays because her mother joined the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Olsen wrote the novel "When You Pick a Flower*, published in 2020-- not long before Jehovah's Witnesses were denied state funding and registration as a religious community.

While working on the book, she interviewed several former Jehovah's Witnesses-including one of the witnesses from the earlier court cases.

Sigrid Olsen, former member

When she heard the news about the Supreme Court's decision, she got angry.

- "My first thought was a bad word, in proper Nynorsk, but I can't say it out loud here," Olsen tells Dagen.

She believes, however, that it was not unexpected.

- I followed the case in the Supreme Court and saw that not all the justices agreed.

Seeing the impact of the trial

Olsen nevertheless believes that the trial in Norway has influenced the worldwide organization in several areas.

- While the trial has been ongoing, Jehovah's Witnesses have relaxed several requirements. You are allowed to say hello to outcasts and you can use your own blood for planned surgeries, to name a few. It is quite clear that this is a consequence of the case in Norway.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses won the case against the State in the Supreme Court. They will get their registration as a religious community back and will likely receive a large repayment of state subsidies.

Photo: Vidar Ruud / NTB

Tarjei Leer-Salvesen

Updated: 2 hours ago

The case concerns state subsidies and the registration Jehovah’s Witnesses have as a religious community, and was an important case of principle. The judgment was delivered with dissent.

The background for the Supreme Court hearing was a decision made by the County Governor not to pay state subsidies to the religious community Jehovah’s Witnesses for 2021, and subsequently to remove the community’s registration.

The State’s decision was based on considerations particularly related to children’s rights and Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practice of breaking contact with excommunicated members, which the State believed was in violation of the Religious Communities Act.

The State has withheld subsidies from the religious community for the five years the case has been ongoing. Now the decisions regarding state subsidies must be reconsidered.

Satisfied

Anders Ryssdal, lawyer and partner at Glittertind, is very satisfied with the judgment. He has represented Jehovah’s Witnesses in the case.

– Jehovah’s Witnesses are very pleased that the majority respects the religious community’s right to practice their religion without sanctions, as the authorities originally intended in their decisions, he says.

He further states that since the decisions were invalid, Jehovah’s Witnesses are entitled to repayment of subsidies and reinstatement of their registration as a religious community.

– How much money are we talking about?

– We have to calculate it now, but it is an amount somewhere between 50 and 100 million NOK.

In addition, the State must pay the community’s legal costs of just over 2 million.

Disappointed

“Clearly I am disappointed. But it was somewhat expected. Part of what is being discussed here concerns negative social control, and the judgment states that there is no legal prohibition against this. But I am glad there was dissent, and that two of the judges supported us on the question of whether the right to freely leave is real or not,” says Jan Frode Nilsen from Risør.

Nilsen has previously shared his story in Fædrelandsvennen and has testified in the proceedings in both the district court and the court of appeal. He also followed the Supreme Court hearing.

Nilsen believed the new Religious Communities Act was a step forward, and that it would help him and others with difficult experiences of being expelled from Jehovah’s Witnesses.

– Now I think that Section 6 of the Religious Communities Act appears “dead” after this ruling. The threshold for what counts as a rights violation is set very high when the references are female genital mutilation and forced marriage, he says.

Nilsen also reacts to the fact that the Supreme Court uses a reference to Jehovah’s Witnesses’ publication The Watchtower from 2024, with adjusted guidelines, as an argument that the County Governor’s decision from 2021 was wrong.

Dissent

The Supreme Court assessed whether the practice of social exclusion of former members violates members’ right to freely leave the organisation. The majority of three judges concluded that the disfellowshipping practice does not constitute improper pressure on members, with reference to the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR Article 9).

Two judges dissented on the question of whether Jehovah’s Witnesses subject their members to improper pressure to leave, and thereby violate the members’ right to freely exit. The minority particularly emphasised that exclusion can lead to loss of contact with family members, especially for minors.

The ruling clarifies the threshold for denying state subsidies and registration of religious communities, and how the rules are to be assessed against freedom of religion under the ECHR.

https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/GxPgBq/hoeyesterett-har-konkludert-klart-jeg-er-skuffet

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Governing Body Update #3 comes out tomorrow…

Mark Sanderson hosts

No big announcements, just:

-The convention videos for “The Good News According to Jesus” series will be released.

-Persecution in Russia is discussed.

-A new school building in Denmark (probably that expensive hotel they bought recently) is revealed.

I don’t have any more detail than this.

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u/larchington — 13 days ago
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Correction: said “Norway’s” in the title, meant “Denmark’s”! (Posted Norway too many times today!)

Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway have won a sensational case in the country's Supreme Court, securing the movement both state support and continued recognition as a religious community.

This is stated in a decision from the Supreme Court of Norway, which Ekstra Bladet has in its possession.

'Decisions to deny Jehovah's Witnesses state support and registration are invalid,' the judgment states, among other things.

Continue reading (no paywall, translate in browser):

https://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/samfund/jehovas-vidner-i-norge-vinder-sag-i-hoejesteret-det-er-trist/11163947

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u/larchington — 13 days ago
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https://www.vl.no/meninger/en-knusende-dom-over-staten/10319718

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A crushing verdict against the state

COMMENTARY: The state has now lost every case in which it has denied religious communities subsidies. This may indicate that the Religious Communities Act is not working. Or that it is.

Morten Marius Larsen

Morten Marius Larsen

News Editor for Religion

Published 04/30/2026 - 2:24 PM

Last updated 04/30/2026 - 2:34 PM

This is a commentary. It expresses the writer’s analyses and opinions.

A long-standing dispute between Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Norwegian state has come to an end. Jehovah’s Witnesses can celebrate after defeating the state in the Supreme Court.

In terms of actual kroner, the case involved nearly 100 million in state subsidies, in addition to legal costs. In principle, the case has centered on what it takes to be stripped of subsidies as a religious community.

Not least, it concerns all the people who are directly and indirectly affected. Members who find great meaning in living as Jehovah’s Witnesses and who already experience being stigmatized in Norwegian society. And those who have left the religious community, or wish to do so, and must live with the consequences.

Now that the case has been decided, it raises major questions about how the Religious Communities Act should be applied going forward. The State Administrator has lost every case in which they have revoked subsidies since the law took effect in 2021.

The Religious Communities Act was intended to tighten the requirements for those receiving subsidies. In practice, it has been very difficult to apply.

SUPREME COURT: The case between Jehovah’s Witnesses and the state was heard by the Supreme Court in February. The verdict has now been handed down. Erlend Berge

The Core of the Case

The state’s claim has been that Jehovah’s Witnesses violate members’ right to freely leave the organization, which is fundamental to religious freedom. They have also argued that Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practices amount to an incitement to psychological violence and negative social control against children.

The new Religious Communities Act, which took effect in 2021, allows for the withdrawal of subsidies under a number of conditions, including religious communities that violate statutory rights and freedoms or encourage such violations.

Jehovah’s Witnesses, for their part, have rejected the charges and maintained that the State cannot withdraw their subsidies without violating their right to freedom of religion. In 2022, they filed a lawsuit against the State, represented by the Ministry of Children and Families. The religious community lost in the district court but prevailed in the court of appeals.

The Supreme Court’s ruling was issued with a dissenting opinion, with three judges against two. Nevertheless, it delivers a crushing verdict on the state’s arguments.

This is how the Supreme Court concluded

The most important issues for the Supreme Court concerned what the actual practices of Jehovah’s Witnesses are and whether they give the state grounds to withhold subsidies under the Religious Communities Act.

The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Jehovah’s Witnesses on all the key points.

In the Jehovah’s Witnesses, all members, including baptized minors, can be brought before a disciplinary committee if they commit a serious sin, and in the worst case, be expelled. The state believes this practice constitutes negative social control and psychological abuse of children, whom Norway is obligated to protect under the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

THE STATE: Liv Inger Gjone Gabrielsen from the Office of the Attorney General represented the state in court. Erlend Berge

The Supreme Court ruling states that the threshold must be higher to qualify as negative social control that violates children’s rights. The severity must be the same as in cases of forced marriage, female genital mutilation, and honor-based violence, they argue. The Supreme Court also rejects the claim that the exclusion process constitutes psychological violence under the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

When the state claims that Jehovah’s Witnesses prevent free withdrawal, this is because members are required to avoid contact with those who have left the organization. The state has argued that the certainty of losing contact with remaining members places undue pressure to stay.

The Supreme Court disagrees. The practice does not constitute direct and undue pressure to prevent withdrawal. Furthermore, remaining members have the right to decide for themselves with whom they wish to socialize. It also benefits Jehovah’s Witnesses that members are not required to cut off contact with family members in the same household.

Furthermore, the Supreme Court emphasizes that there must be very good reasons for the state to intervene in religious practice and violate the principle of equal treatment of religious communities.

Implications for Other Religious Communities

Several religious communities have been concerned that new cases will follow if Jehovah’s Witnesses were to lose. “Now comes the religious taste police,” wrote Vebjørn Selbekk in Dagen when the case against Jehovah’s Witnesses was filed. He believed that the new Religious Communities Act opened the door to punishing religious communities financially if their teachings and practices conflicted with the Norwegian state’s sensibilities.

The case against Jehovah’s Witnesses has consistently been regarded as the most significant

Following the Supreme Court’s ruling, we can safely say that Selbekk’s grim prophecy has not come to pass. It has proven to be much more legally complicated to revoke subsidies than the Dagen editor would have us believe.

One of the questions that will nevertheless be discussed is what significance the ruling may have for the application of the Religious Communities Act.

A law that doesn’t work?

Before the ruling, Helge Årsheim, a professor of religion at the University of Innlandet, wrote an op-ed in Klassekampen in which he argued that the Religious Communities Act could hardly remain in its current form if the Jehovah’s Witnesses were to win. The state has lost too many court cases and overturned too many administrative decisions for that to be possible, he argued.

It is a timely question. When the law was enacted, the government emphasized that the basis for denying subsidies had been unclear, and that the new provisions could lead to stricter enforcement in practice.

That is not how it has worked out.

Both Brunstad Christian Church, the Samfundet congregation, and a Pentecostal congregation have been investigated. In all these cases, the religious communities prevailed without the cases reaching court. The grounds for denying them subsidies were too flimsy.

The case against Jehovah’s Witnesses has always been considered the strongest. Since not even this case has gone through the court system, it appears to be very difficult to use the Religious Communities Act to deny subsidies. Unless it involves obvious violations of the law, which would in any case be covered by other laws.

This may indicate that the law was not sufficiently thought through beforehand. It conflicts with too many weighty rights, such as freedom of religion.

On the other hand, one could argue that the Religious Communities Act does what it is supposed to do: provide strong protection for religious communities’ right to state subsidies and equal treatment.

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Sondre Bjordal

JOURNALIST

PUBLISHED 30.04.2026 - 11:26

LAST UPDATED 30.04.2026 - 14:16

The State Took Jehovah’s Witnesses to the Supreme Court. Now the Judgment Has Been Delivered

JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES: The country’s highest court has decided whether the state can deny the religious community state funding and registration as a religious community.

FINALLY DECIDED: The case between Jehovah’s Witnesses and the state was heard by the Supreme Court from 5–7 February 2026.

Now the judgment from the Supreme Court has been delivered:

Jehovah’s Witnesses are upheld in their claim that they have the right to state funding and registration as a religious community.

The judgment was delivered with dissent, by three judges against two.

The majority believes that the state has not been able to prove that Jehovah’s Witnesses violate children’s rights, nor that the practice of expelling former members constitutes undue pressure that violates the right to freely withdraw from a religious community.

The minority of two judges believes that the state was justified in denying Jehovah’s Witnesses state funding and registration as a religious community. The minority believes that the threshold for violations of Section 6 of the Religious Communities Act should be lower than what the majority has set.

The minority also believes that Jehovah’s Witnesses violate the right to free withdrawal, and that the state has not violated freedom of religion under the European Convention on Human Rights when it intervened against the religious community.

Heavy

– “I am very saddened. This will be very hard for former Witnesses,” says Jan Frode Nilsen to Vårt Land.

He is one of several former Jehovah’s Witnesses who have testified against the religious community in court. He now believes that Section 6 of the Religious Communities Act, which sets out the conditions for withdrawing funding, was poorly worked out when it was drafted. The law came into force in 2021.

– This is about terribly poor drafting in the Religious Communities Act. It is too vague.

Nilsen says that there has been a great deal of international attention connected to the court case. He feels that a lot of focus has been placed on problematic conditions within the religious community.

– It has been an absolutely extraordinary process over the past five years. We have achieved a great deal, both in terms of attention and public awareness.

Historic case

This is the first time the Supreme Court has considered the application of the Religious Communities Act from 2021.

The most central legal provision in the case has been Section 6 of the Religious Communities Act, which states that religious communities can be denied funding if they “exercise violence or coercion, issue threats, violate children’s rights, breach statutory anti-discrimination provisions, or in other ways seriously violate the rights and freedoms of others.”

The perhaps most central question in the case has been whether this legal provision applies to Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practice of distancing themselves from those who have withdrawn or been expelled. Furthermore, it has been central for the court to assess whether the serious social consequences mean that members, and particularly minors, are in reality not free to withdraw.

Liv-Inger Gjone Gabrielsen represented the case for the Ministry of Children and Families. She says:

– “The Ministry of Children and Families is satisfied that the case has been thoroughly considered by the Supreme Court. The fact that the judgment is not unanimous shows that the case has not been straightforward. The Ministry and the County Governor will now begin work to prepare new decisions that follow up the judgment.”

This is what the judgment says

Regarding the claim that the religious community violates children’s rights, the justice delivering the leading opinion writes that those who choose to be baptised are most often over the religious age of majority of 15. For those under this age, the majority believes that no evidence has been presented to suggest that their “decision to be baptised is not based on informed and independent choices,” and that it must be assumed “that the minor is also aware of the consequences of withdrawing or being expelled from Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

The majority believes that the exclusion practice toward minors appears to have become more considerate than before, and that the practice does not constitute psychological violence under the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

The minority, led by Justice Poulsen, on the other hand believes that the religious community has a practice toward former members whereby contact “changes and is reduced to such a degree” that the right to free withdrawal is violated.

In contrast to the majority, the minority believes that it is not of great importance that those who join are aware of the consequences of leaving when they join. Justice Poulsen writes that: “precisely because many relinquish rights and freedoms by being part of a religious community, it is all the more important that it is possible to reclaim these rights and freedoms by withdrawing. This is particularly true for children.”

The State: – The dissent shows the case was not straightforward

Attorney Liv-Inger Gjone Gabrielsen from the Office of the Attorney General, who argued the case for the Ministry of Children and Families, has sent the following comment to Vårt Land:

“The Ministry of Children and Families is satisfied that the case has been thoroughly considered by the Supreme Court. The fact that the judgment is not unanimous shows that the case has not been straightforward. The Ministry and the County Governor will now begin work to prepare new decisions that follow up the judgment.”

https://www.vl.no/nyheter/staten-tok-jehovas-vitner-til-hoyesterett-na-har-dommen-falt/10229632

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The glandular activity of Noah's children is discussed and that the humid warmth of the Edenic world would have kept the glands of men from Adam to Noah in a womblike state.

Racial differences are due to disease aggravated by a change in climate, variation in food, and intermarriage!

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The article goes on to discuss vegetarianism - "Perhaps one of Noah's sons loved animals greatly and could not eat the flesh of his pets" - this led to eventual animal worship.

Meanwhile another drive lived on meat and produced body heat at a faster rate.

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The article concludes by emphasizing degeneration, not evolution, and how after Babel, intermarriage between races intensified came to be looked upon as criminal.

Remember this is from the same organization who believed "colored brethren” would be restored to the “grand original standard” of perfection? -The Watch Tower April 1,1914:

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A belief that still appears to linger even now:

Don't worry, it's gonna be all white - Watchtower, August 2020

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