u/kingofrail

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Do you think Susie leitmotif will ever make a return after chapter 1?

And before one of you tell,I don't believe the song "friends" has Susie leitmotif,I talk about the whole in my previous post about the friends song,I look at the music sheet notes both of friends and Susie theme and listening to them both,I couldn't find any notes that Susie leitmotif, couldn't hear in the music,I just think the wiki is wrong about Susie leitmotif being in friends,

I do know that the lost girl version that Toby posted on Twitter,that version does have the Susie leitmotif, but since technically that version lost tirl isn't in the game(to my knowledge) and the finale version of lost girl we do have,it doesn't have Susie leitmotif.

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u/kingofrail — 3 days ago
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Does "friends" contain Susie leitmotif(I am no musician expert)

I have seen the wiki that stated that Susie leitmotif is in friends,but I can't hear in friends, so I try to find a website that has friends music sheet and found this.

https://musescore.com/user/33605901/scores/25640743

By comparing the notes I still don't see Susie leitmotif, I do think that girl next door leitmotif is in friends,overall I don't see Susie leitmotif Im friends.

u/kingofrail — 4 days ago
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I have been recently scrolling the subreddit to see people theories about Suzy before the release of chapter 1,let say it was a experience for sure, anyways I have see tiny bit of people saying that Susie and Suzy are different people due to the fact that they have slightly different names and anyone else who both on undertale and deltarune doesn't have they name changed one bit,

thing is that clam girl in the Nintendo switch says that "because the time that you will meet her... is fast approaching" and well dorp chapter 1 the next month where we meet Susie which while technically,spell the same, further more if you believe Kris is deltarune version of frisk than Suzy has to be a undertale version of susie since Susie and Kris became friends in deltarune and clam girl say that frisk and Suzy should be friends and clam girl clearly know some stuff about deltarune,

I think the reason why Suzy and Susie have different names is not because they are sisters,I think it is because the human monster war being changed,in undertale the human monster war results in lots of deaths for the monster while no deaths for humans,then they seal the monster underground,in deltarune we get no details about the war,we do know that monster lives in the surface in that timeline, so it must mean that the human monster war was different in deltarune,either the monster win but doesn't seal the humans,it end it a standstill or the war might not even started in the first place.

The reason why the war went differently: I am confident that monsters in deltarune are different than the ones in undertale since it is stated that Kris is a human,and Susie/Noelle both monster have enough determination to create a fountain, which means monster from Deltarune can hold more determination in their bodies than the ones in undertale who couldn't handle the amount of determination that humans have in their body, so I confident that the deltarune monster are more physical than in undertale(rather if deltarune monster bleed or not doesn't if deltarune monster have physical bodies)

If we look at the changes that caused by the war being different we see lots of changes besides the obvious monster in the surface and wacky timeline nonsense, we don't see gerson wife or Alvin in base undertale or the 10th anniversary stream,it because for what ever reason,gerson meet a human mage,get close to that mage,than he get seal with the rest of monster kind and he never meets with ms.boom(her name in files in grandma boom) and in the deltarune timeline,since the war is different,he was able to meet with ms.boom and conceive Alvin together, if you are a believer of Kris is frisk or is Chara or whatever humans you believe Kris is, than the answer is simple,the human get adopted by the dreemurrs In Deltarune while in undertale they are raised by by their human parents, the pre amalgamates(crystal,mutter,shyra) dies in deltarune due to the barrier not existing to needed be destroyed,while in undertale it does exist and they get turn into amalgamates,ect.(There is the whole burgerpants/pizzapants but 1 it mostly a joke and 2. Those ain't his real name, and 3. He works at different locations)

Now,the thing is we don't know about the Susie family thing so it is possible that her family has her with different names just because it's a different universe,and the fact that Suzy and Susie both names have the same meaning make it very hard to know why the name changed for a reason, even than there is no good out of universe reason for the names to be different besides maybe the only possible reason why the name have to be different is because Susie is a lot more common name than Suzy, look I have no idea how would the war being different changes how Susie being name due to the fact that we really doesn't know ANYTHING about here is a fact,we know more about gaster,the eggman and friend than Susie family,let that sink in,

anyways I pretty almost all Susie theories can't answer why Suzy and Susie have different names,even Susie gaster theory doesn't explain because even if it is true,why would he name her different?

Expect there are two theories that could explain why Suzy and Susie have different 1. Susie come from a human community: maybe Susie is more of a human name and Suzy is more of a monster name? 2. The half human Susie theory: this theory is the theory I think that can explain why Suzy and Susie have different names,it is because undertale Suzy is fully monster while deltarune Susie is half human,half monster, and than because one of Susie parents is a human instead of a monster,they chose the name that supposed to be Suzy to Susie.

Do you have any explanation of why undertale suzy have a different name than deltarune Susie?

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u/kingofrail — 11 days ago