u/drippysoap

This is a sad and devastating moment for me, but I know many others who have been affected- entirely negatively by the kratom ban in August.

I’ve known a decent amount of people who had come a long way. I’m their careers and becoming more socially and mentally stable. I had an uncle figure who was doing so great by not drinking alcohol and unfortunately that change of lifestyle did not stick.

It’s had a net negative effect on me too, after struggling over a decade with substance use and mental health disorders. Having something that not only made getting out of bed bearable, but exciting. Having a lust for life… I truly miss it.

I’ve tried the medication assisted therapies that are available (well suboxone. Getting methadone isn’t a logistic possibility for me rn)

There were so many possibilities to keep it out of the hands of kids but letting the adults who needed it, be able have it. Not to mention it was banned for research purposes, so we are not even able to study how it helped so many people with alcoholism and opiate use disorder. Unfortunately, we live in a state run by lobbyist to control corrupt politicians.

Anyone have any stories they’d like to share about how the banning of kratom had affected them? Just a little sad and angry over the whole thing. So I wanted to vent and have this space for others to vent as well.

I also ask if this hasn’t directly impacted you, to keep an eye on the overdose numbers that had steeply declined as extracts became more commercially available. I haven’t seen what the numbers have done since August but I don’t suspect they are good.

TLDR: the kratom ban has been really rough on me and my small circle of friends.

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u/drippysoap — 10 days ago

So I’m making this post for a few reasons. 1 just to pass on the knowledge that there is this reported way to *easily* synthesize ibogaine in 1 step from voacangine.

Disclaimer:I’m not a chemist so i don’t really know what easy means in this scenario.

But I’ve read these pdfs and you can find videos describing the extraction process thru Hamilton morris YouTube search.

So my biggest question here is why does it take 75 pages of pdfs to basically say

-extract
-separate
-reflux

My limited understanding is that he’s trying to avoid chromatography but using many different solvents to continuously purify the desired alkaloid (voacangine) .

Again, maybe I’m just wrong but there’s so many steps, pages, and solvents used, that it seems like it would be easier to buy and learn column chromatography before crystallizing the extract so many times.

I get that the idea is to make it accessible to more people by using simpler methods but I feel like I’m missing something crucial from this info

Anyway, major props to the great Chris jenks for discovering that ibogaine can be made in 1 step from a commercially available plant - potentially saving a magical plant that will certainly face extinction possibilities if iboga is just unsustainably harvested. Even tho I don’t fully understand the process described in these pdfs, it’s pretty clear it can be done by someone with the ability to run a column and reflux an extract with a base.

So if anyone has a condensed version of this process I’d be interested to see it. As well as just passing on the info that while demand for ibogaine is ever growing- we don’t have to drive the plant to extinction to get the experience

http://puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/literature/voacanga\_extraction\_manual\_phase\_1.pdf

http://puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/literature/voacanga_extraction_manual_phase_2.pdf

http://puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/literature/voacanga_extraction_manual_phase_3.pdf

http://puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/literature/voacanga_extraction_manual_phase_4.pdf

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u/drippysoap — 12 days ago