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The origin of Finns

Estonian researchers estimate that Baltic Finns have lived about 5000 years on the shores of the Baltic Sea. They arrived first in Latvia and established a culture around Daugava-river, and then started to move northward to Estonia. After some time, some of them moved to Finland, and then Finnish and Estonian cultures started to separate from each other, which is the start of Finnish culture. The culture inside The Peninsula of Finland started to be a distinctive entity of its own. Still Finnish dialects in South-West Finland resemble a lot Estonian language, as a reminder of this migration from Estonia to Finland. Ancient chronicles written by the neighbours of Finnic people described ancient Finns and Hungarians as blue-eyed and blond people. The proportion of blond and blue-eyed people among Finns is actually still the highest in the World, and that's why some European scientists have speculated that blond hair colour came originally from The Finnic people. So it is not the other way around, as many people expect.

Baltic Finnish culture in Latvia, called "Livonians" began to mix to Baltic tribe of Latgals, and together they formed the nation of Latvia. Latvians still have a significant proportion of Finnic paternal ancestral lines in their DNA.

In Finland few Finnish tribes lived for centuries separately in Southern Finland. Sometimes these tribes had some clashes, but they also intermingled with each other. Carelians lived in the East around the Lake Ladoga, Tavastians lived in Mainland Finland around current day cities of Tampere and Lahti. Their native land started just couple of dozen kilometers to North from the Gulf of Finland. The Northern Shore of the Gulf of Finland was mainly uninhabited until Swedes started to move there in the 1100s. Carelians and Tavastians mixed together and formed a new Finnish tribe called Savonians, which later became the biggest and most influential Finnish tribe. Most residents of Helsinki are ethnically Savonians.

A South-West Finnish tribe called "Finns Proper" started to intermingle peacefully with the Swedes around 1000 AD, and Swedes began to move to empty coastal areas of Finland. Finns and Swedes started to create a common society together. Finnish and Swedish tribes have never had a war with each other. Most people don't know that the unification of Sweden and Finland was totally peaceful, and led to a point when Swedish princes invited Finnish princes to the Swedish Royal Election on The Stones of Mora in Sweden in 1300s.

Finland joined Sweden peacefully during a couple hundred years of process, and it actually happened before The Kingdom of Sweden existed. Sweden was established in 1250, and South-West Finland was already a part of Swedish speaking society. Southern Finland belonged to the core of Sweden during the Swedish era of Finland. It was not a colony. But despite of that both Swedes and Finns saw that Finland and Sweden were two separate countries under the rule of the same monarchy. There were cultural differences between the two, and Finland was led autonomically from Turku. One of the main reasons why Åland Islands was given to Finland in 1921 was, that it belonged to Finland since ancient time. It belonged to Åboland, South-West Finland.

Fingol-theories don't belong to the Finnish identity. In Finland no one knew about them before the internet in the 1990s. It is a made up story among some questionable circles in the internet. It is a misconception of some weird researchers of the late 1800s Europe. When they visited Finland, they wrote bact to home in their letters, that not Fingols found yet, but there might be some of them somewhere. So Fingol-nonsense from the pits of the internet is not a part of Finnish mainstream culture.

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u/TinyAd1126 — 2 days ago

The origin of Finns

Estonian researchers estimate that Baltic Finns have lived about 5000 years on the shores of the Baltic Sea. They arrived first in Latvia and established a culture around Daugava-river, and then started to move northward to Estonia. After some time, some of them moved to Finland, and then Finnish and Estonian cultures started to separate from each other, which is the start of Finnish culture. The culture inside The Peninsula of Finland started to be a distinctive entity of its own. Still Finnish dialects in South-West Finland resemble a lot Estonian language, as a reminder of this migration from Estonia to Finland. Ancient chronicles written by the neighbours of Finnic people described ancient Finns and Hungarians as blue-eyed and blond people. The proportion of blond and blue-eyed people among Finns is actually still the highest in the World, and that's why some European scientists have speculated that blond hair colour came originally from The Finnic people. So it is not the other way around, as many people expect.

Baltic Finnish culture in Latvia, called "Livonians" begun to mix to Baltic tribe of Latgals, and together they formed the nation of Latvia. Latvians still have a significant proportion of Finnic paternal ancestral lines in their DNA.

In Finland few Finnish tribes lived for centuries separately in Southern Finland. Sometimes these tribes had some clashes, but they also intermingled with each other. Carelians lived in the East around the Lake Ladoga, Tavastians lived in Mainland Finland around current day cities of Tampere and Lahti. Their native land started just couple of dozen kilometers to North from the Gulf of Finland. The Northern Shore of the Gulf of Finland was mainly uninhabited until Swedes started to move there in the 1100s. Carelians and Tavastians mixed together and formed a new Finnish tribe called Savonians, which later became the biggest and most influential Finnish tribe. Most residents of Helsinki are ethnically Savonians.

A South-West Finnish tribe called "Finns Proper" started to intermingle peacefully with the Swedes around 1000 AD, and Swedes begun to move to empty coastal areas of Finland. Finns and Swedes started to create a common society together. Finnish and Swedish tribes have never had a war with each other. Most people don't know that the unification of Sweden and Finland was totally peaceful, and led to a point when Swedish princes invited Finnish princes to the Swedish Royal Election on The Stones of Mora in Sweden in 1300s.

Finland joined Sweden peacefully during a couple hundred years of process, and it actually happened before The Kingdom of Sweden existed. Sweden was established in 1250, and South-West Finland was already a part of Swedish speaking society. Southern Finland belonged to the core of Sweden during the Swedish era of Finland. It was not a colony. But despite of that both Swedes and Finns saw that Finland and Sweden were two separate countries under the rule of the same monarchy. There were cultural differences between the two, and Finland was led autonomically from Turku. One of the main reasons why Åland Islands was given to Finland in 1921 was, that it belonged to Finland since ancient time. It belonged to Åboland, South-West Finland.

Fingol-theories don't belong to the Finnish identity. In Finland no one knew about them before the internet in the 1990s. It is a made up story among some questionable circles in the internet. It is a misconception of some weird researchers of the late 1800s Europe. When they visited Finland, they wrote bact to home in their letters, that not Fingols found yet, but there might be some of them somewhere. So Fingol-nonsense from the pits of the internet is not a part of Finnish mainstream culture.

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u/TinyAd1126 — 2 days ago

Muistikuvia 90-luvun lamasta

Ysärin lama on nykyään suorastaan myyttinen tarina, ja mielikuvien tasolla se näyttäytyy ajanjaksona jolloin ihmiset hädintuskin saivat ruokaa syödäkseen. Olen aina ihmetellyt näitä mielikuvia, koska en muista tavanneeni yhtä ainoaa todellisissa vaikeuksissa olevaa ihmistä koko 90-luvun aikana. Ei sellaisia ollut. Yhteiskunta oli paljon paremmassa kunnossa kuin tällä hetkellä. Ei se nytkään ole huono kansainvälisessä vertailussa, vaan melko todennäköisesti top kympissä joka mittarilla.

Harva tietää esimerkiksi sitä että autojen keski-ikä oli Suomessa 90-luvun puolivälissä noin yhdeksän vuotta, kun nyt se on 13-14 vuotta. Suomessa oli ysärillä hieman uudempi autokanta kuin Ruotsissa. Kuulostaa mielikuvitukselliselta, mutta Suomi oli varakkaampi yhteiskunta 90-luvulla kuin nykyään. Suomessa kotitalouksien varallisuus oli 90-luvulla tasoissa Ruotsin ja Norjan kanssa. Suomi sinnitteli 2000-luvun alkuun Ruotsin ja Norjan tuntumassa varallisuuden suhteen, kunnes ero alkoi kasvaa, ja on nyt noin 25% Ruotsin eduksi.

https://www.helgilibrary.com/indicators/gross-household-assets-usd/

https://www.helgilibrary.com/indicators/gross-household-assets-per-capita-usd/

Suomalaisten käteisvarat olivat 90-luvun puolivälissä Tanskan ja Yhdysvaltojen tasolla asukasta kohti laskettuna. Tämän muistan ihan selvästi itsekin. Ihmisillä oli hyvin rahaa tilillä suhteessa hintatasoon. Ihmisillä oli jotenkin itsellisempi tunnelma olemisessaan. Ei tarvinnut koko ajan pelätä että miten arjesta selviää.

https://www.helgilibrary.com/indicators/households-assets-in-cash-and-deposits-per-capita-usd/

Asuimme 90-luvulla keskiluokkaisissa lähiöissä Helsingissä, Espoossa ja Vantaalla. Vanhempieni nettotulot olivat nykyrahassa laskettuna noin 7000 euroa kuussa, ja vuokrasimme ylemmän keskiluokan lähiöstä 90-luvun puolivälissä espanjalaistyylisen omakotitalon, jossa oli poreallas ja parkettilattiat, valtava terassi, loistelias puutarha ja iso vuolukivitakka taloa lämmittämään talvipakkasilla. Oli niin kodikasta kun oli kova pakkanen, puoli metriä lunta ja äiti leipoi pullaa ja takassa räiskyi tuli. Tämän asunnon vuokra oli noin kuusi tuhatta markkaa, eli nykyrahassa 1700 euroa inflaatio huomioon ottaen.

Kaikki eivät tietenkään olleet yhtä onnekkaita kuin me. Jotkut isäni ystävistä olivat aika ajoin huolissaan vähentyneen työmäärän vuoksi. Eräs isäni ystävistä oli maalari, ja koki työttömyysjaksoja. Ei hän vähäosainen ollut, sillä hän asui vastavalmistuneessa talossa, ja hänellä oli kaksi autoa käytössään. Volvot ja Bemarit olivat hänen mieleen. Yksi isäni ystävistä oli kirvesmiehenä rakennuksilla, ja heille 90-luvun puoliväli oli erittäin vaikeaa aikaa. Kuitenkin hän eli hyvää elämää ja toi meille ilmaiseksi poronlihaa Lapista, josta hän oli kotoisin, ja polttopuita myös ilmaiseksi. Muistan myös erään isäni ystävistä, joka oli töissä tehtaassa, ja asui mukavasti Helsingin Punavuoressa.

Minulla oli ystäviä myös työväenluokkaisissa lähiöissä. En muista että heidän perheillään olisi koskaan ollut mitään vaikeuksia, vaikka puhutaan pääkaupunkiseudun kaikkein raffeimmista lähiöistä. Volvoilla siellä ajettiin ja mökkeiltiin kesäisin. Vaikka elettiin lamaa ja suurtyöttömyyden aikaa, niin ihmiset olivat iloisia, lämminsydämisiä ja äärimmäisen solidaarisia toisiaan kohtaan. Jollain tavalla Suomi oli taloudellisestikin hieman paremmassa kunnossa kuin koskaan tällä vuosituhannella. Kauppakeskukset olivat täynnä ihmisiä, eikä tyhjiä liiketiloja juurikaan ollut Helsingin keskustassa. Väitän siis että yleinen mielikuva 90-luvun lamasta on täysin päinvastainen siihen nähden mitä se aika oikeasti oli.

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