u/Still_Reindeer_435

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This guy makes a good point

honestly it’s scary how much worse do you think this will get with the progression of ai

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u/Still_Reindeer_435 — 6 hours ago
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Claude thinks AGI will happen but UBI isn't going to happen

Me: "do you think AGI will be reached? if so do you think UBI is going to happen?"

Claude: "These are fascinating questions that intersect technology, economics, and politics. Here's my honest take:

On AGI:

I think it's more likely than not that something we'd call AGI will be reached, though the timeline and definition are genuinely contested. The pace of progress in the last few years has surprised even experts. That said, there are real reasons for skepticism — we keep moving the goalposts on what "AGI" means, and there may be fundamental barriers we haven't yet encountered. My sense is that some form of transformative general-purpose AI is coming; whether it matches the sci-fi conception of AGI is less clear.

On UBI:

This is where I'd pump the brakes a bit on the optimism. Even if AGI arrives and does cause massive labor displacement, UBI is far from guaranteed. A few reasons:

  • Political economy is hard. Redistribution at scale requires political will, and historically, technological disruption has reshaped types of work more than it's eliminated work entirely, which reduces the urgency felt by policymakers.
  • There are competing responses. Job guarantees, expanded welfare, sector-specific subsidies, or simply ignoring the displaced are all politically easier paths than UBI.
  • Who controls the AGI? If the gains are captured by a small number of companies or governments, the pressure to redistribute via UBI may be resisted quite effectively.
  • UBI pilots are mixed. Evidence from real-world trials is encouraging on wellbeing but doesn't yet answer the fiscal sustainability question at scale.

The more likely near-term scenario in my view is a patchwork — some countries experimenting with UBI or UBI-like programs, others doubling down on retraining, and a lot of political turbulence in between.

The honest answer is that both questions hinge enormously on who holds power when these transitions happen. Technology creates possibility; politics determines outcomes.

What draws you to this question — more the tech side or the policy side?"

Are we cooked?

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u/Still_Reindeer_435 — 1 day ago