u/SpanishRoyaI

The whole cult surrounding sebastian to the point that people were yumeshipping with him was insane to me because before wtw 1 dude shows up ONCE in the entire game to sell you shit, and after wtw 1 he just shows up in the end to kill you for RIGHTFULLY killing painter's bitchass who is the reason you have to deal with gauntlets, dupes, turrets and ALL of the grand encounters (maybe not abominations, but the other two are caused by him)

after zerum chose to turn him into an aggressive dickhead and be married to a bunny girl (breaks the lore, why would furries exist in pressure and not be a Z-entity?) to shoo away the yumeshippers he became even more annoying, I deadass do not understand how everyone loved him to the point people seriously yumeshipped/kinned and even had dissociative disorders with sebastian alters

let's be real, the only reason people liked him was cause he was "hot"

I'm choosing to remain neutral leaning on siding with zeal, but every time I open twitter I'm greeted with these zeal "defenders" absolutely butchering any possible chance of a calm discussion with people that support ren about such a serious topic as alleged SA is.

whether it's by doing unfunny jokes (for example putting rens oc on a manga panel with the phrase "let's fawn!") to nitpicking absolutely everything ren does as evil (something as minor as deleting a message in announcements doing a joke) to saying absolutely heinous disgusting shit to ren supporters, like the image above.

I cannot believe I share an opinion with these people, and I want to ask the community to stop giving these people a platform as the voice of zeal support in twitter, this includes:

The pandemonium30 account.

The guy in the screenshot, dazed daze.

A guy called dandy, a guy with a cat pfp who's been engaging in petty jokes making anyone who genuinely wants to express support for zeal look horrible.

ETC, many more acting insanely childish and immature.

This doesn't shake my neutral siding almost leaning on zeal, but it just shatters my hope of everyone having a common ground with this situation because of these people ragebaiting, joking and saying heinous shit to people.

There's some of them that act just like this in this subreddit too, please stop harassing ren with emojis in her discord server, posting manga panels roleplaying as "lawyers" and making jokes in general about ren or zeal alike, you MAKE US LOOK BAD, you're absolutely butchering any chance of a common ground from both sides in the community by acting like this.

Most of these people are teens, 14-15 year olds who don't understand the gravity of the situation and shouldn't be interacting with this situation at all.

I ask to the coherent side of the community, both people that support ren and zeal, to actually just ignore these guys and interact with actually intelligent people that just want a middle ground until everything is over and we get definitive proof

And something extra, that pandemonium guy saying he was going to commit over the game going under review really just proves that guy has to be a kid, ruining any chance of anyone willing to defend zeal to be taken seriously