Am I an LII or an EII?
I've been doubting my self-typing in both socionics and Jungian for several months now, and at this point I just think I need to ask actual people instead of being in a loop of always searching and reading the same things over and over while also not completely understanding...
I think I relate most to LII and EII. I've been typing myself as LII, but EII also speaks to me. Yet there are things that don't feel right in both based on what little I know of socionics, which basically amounts to Wikisocion's function and type pages (I know there are others, I just don't know where they are or how to access them, and frankly don't really have the time or energy to read those in depth...) I feel like I'm in-between and I'm really confused.
Because so far, on the little definitions I've got:
• Base Ti (LII) The individual views reality through the lens of logic, immediately recognizing the correctness and appropriateness of things and their proper place in reality and in his system of views and behavior. => I relate, but is that really my only way of perceiving reality? I don't think so
He freely makes logical assertions, often exaggerated, about new information and experience. => yes
He holds highest those rules to which exceptions do not exist, and is a habitual critic of people or things that don’t follow a set of rules, whether they are those accepted by the community, or his own, or even the other person’s. => yes
Although he is able to adopt others’ rules, his own are always the last word, and these are subject to continual refinement. => I often refine my own logic system if I find out it might be erroneous. So I'm confused on how my own rules would have the last word since I let others influence mine... I don't think I understand.
Often seen as “demanding”, due to high standards. => I don't think so, no. Though maybe? But I don't think...
• Base Fi (EII) The individual sees reality primarily through static personal ethics and stable interpersonal bonds between individuals, including himself, where the status of such interpersonal bonds is determined by his personal ethics. => I don't know if I see it primarily through that, but yeah?
The individual is very confident in evaluating the ethical or moral qualities, and their consistency, of other people. => yes
This makes the individual seem “judgemental” or “self-righteous” to people less so inclined. => maybe? I don't think so...
If he has difficulty in deciding the status of a personal relationship, he will take action to try to reach a conclusion but if that continues to elude him, he will regard the relationship as not worth it. => yes
His own sense of constancy in personal ethics and in his relationships with others is a very strong factor in his sense of self-worth. => don't think so?
Fi in this position implies the ability to almost instantly recognize whether someone is a friend or an enemy, whether they are demonstrating good will or ill will, and whether they are drawn to or repelled by the individual. => relate
• Role Ti (EII) The individual is able to talk about things from a dispassionate academic or theoretical point of view for brief periods of time, but seems overly bookish when doing so and tends to grows tense. When feeling obliged to justify logically a personal decision taken for reasons determined by Fi, the individual attempts to do so but grows quickly annoyed especially if the inconsistency in the logical argument is pointed out. He then either explains the ethical motivation or avoids the issue altogether. = yes
• Role Fi (LII)
The individual recognizes the existence and importance of personal relationships, so he is usually cautious at first about offending others if he does not know them well. To minimize this risk he adheres somewhat simplistically to the relevant social conventions (e.g. political correctness). => yes
However, if taken too far this produces stress, as it inhibits his natural introverted logic (Ti) inclination to voice exactly what his thoughts are on a given issue or situation, with the expectation that others will appreciate his straightforwardness, rather than accusing him of being insensitive. => I think I can relate, but not exactly. I would still be tactful with it.
This caution gradually disappears as he gets to know people better. => yes, I think so
He prefers to develop relationships indirectly with others based on open conversation and common activities => not sure, again I'm not the best at socializing
And only reveals his innermost personal feelings to those he has known for a long time. => but yes, that.
He may become confused and suspicious if they are directly solicited by others. => I wouldn't say suspicious or confused, more like panicked and would probably hide them if I don't know them well or say "I don't know" or "I'm not sure".
• Suggestive Fe (LII) The individual often becomes engrossed in serious work, which leads him to neglect his complementary need for fun and emotional release. => don't think I relate... at least most of the time. I procrastinate a lot and have trouble focusing. I actually procrastinate both from work and from my own hobbies... I suspect I might have ADHD though.
He also feels vulnerable expressing himself spontaneously in public, which allows bad emotions and stress to build up, leading to depression or sudden hostility. He enjoys being around people who make him feel comfortable expressing himself, and who can make every day new and exciting. => relate
Although he may present a hard exterior in the company of strangers => I wouldn't say I'm hard, I'm just really shy and quiet. I'm not the best socially speaking.
He is likely to not be serious at all with people who know him better. => not necessarily, it depends of who I'm with. I can be serious with people who are close to me.
His behavior changes radically - a calm and serious structured person will suddenly become jovial and warm. => relate
• Suggestive Te (EII)
The individual is attracted to people seen as knowledgeable, as well as truthful and willing to share that knowledge, in matters seen as interesting and useful to the individual towards achieving productivity and efficiency. => yes.
Reliable information rather than the finished analysis is what attracts the individual; facts and explanations, not answers limited to the conclusions. => both interest me pretty much, but yes I would much rather have them all rather than just the conclusion.
For the same reason, the individual avoids people who are inclined to give out unreliable or simply untruthful information. => yes.
The individual tends to neglect to think about the productivity of his actions and unconsciously relies on others to give him directions and advice about the best, most productive ways of doing things. He has difficulties measuring how much work he has done, whether it is sufficient, and how much it is actually worth. The individual admires people who are aware of the productivity of their actions and are always trying to do something rational and worthwhile. => yes.
• Ignoring Te (LII)
The individual is adept at finding external sources of factual information and confident in his ability to evaluate their value => I don't think so...
But regards collecting data as secondary to making them fit into a consistent logical system. => yes?
To him, listing facts without analyzing their relationships is a trivial and boring exercise. He values efficiency and productivity but is skeptical that they will be achieved if one’s actions and process do not follow a clear procedure. => yes
• Ignoring Fe (EII) The individual is perfectly able to integrate in a group emotional situations, such as people having fun and trading jokes, and sustain that for a long period of time. He is also usually adept at promoting such an atmosphere himself. => absolutely not, especially when I don't know them.
However, he sees no point in doing so if his own inner emotional state does not prompt him towards that. => It's not that I see no point, I just cannot do it. I can make some small talk with a singular individual if they approach me first, but I'm otherwise pretty quiet in groups, especially when I don't know them.
Especially if he does not feel as having positive private feelings towards the other people involved. => does that refer to me not liking certain people, and thus not partaking in having fun with them? Then yes?
He is aware of the need to keep a “polite façade” in certain social situations even in the presence of people he personally dislikes or during periods of negative inner emotions, but he refuses to actively attempt to integrate in, or promote, a positive external emotional atmosphere in such occasions. His disinclination for doing so increases along with his feelings of closeness with the individuals present. => I guess yeah? If I even understand that correctly.