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ROG's latest on Munster

Munster’s season is on a hinge too, and they don’t want the prospect of Challenge Cup rugby to be clouding their horizons either. They have to chase Champions Cup but confidence comes back quicker in an environment that knows how to win.

My Munster friend made a good point this week: people too easily forget what an extraordinary success that URC final win in South Africa was in 2023 under Graham Rowntree and the stunning sequence of away results that took them there.

The sense then was that the trophy had delayed rather than arrested the province’s slide into mediocrity but when you examine the success from the perspective of now, it’s a level Munster would bite someone’s hand off for.

Things have deteriorated and the notion that Munster ‘aren’t far away’ comes off as a little fanciful now. Frankly, I don’t remember Munster as low. They have to be careful because Welsh rugby is the de facto cautionary tale of what can happen when a totemic institution goes bad or goes the wrong road.

There are decisions made at that club that any former player worth his bacon would look at and scrutinise harshly. Just because Munster are a big brand does not mean that the brand can’t fail. Business and the pages of history has shown us that the unsinkable is anything but. When do they stop taking on water, and who’s going to stop it?

Right now it’s on the playing group to finish their URC season with a flourish and secure Champions Cup Rugby next season, starting in Italy on Saturday. The other three games are all in Ireland, making victory this weekend non-negotiable. That stands alone as the priority.

But inside the building, you are hoping that they are making a plan beyond the end of this campaign. I saw enough of their Challenge Cup exit at Sandy Park and for some of the Exeter tries, the defence was a holy disgrace. That’s a playing/coaching issue.

Munster still has cachet for a potential player, but the brand is as weak as I can remember it in terms of a recruitment tool. The world is small and players talk – if you are offered Toulon or Munster, the considerations will be potential for success, the package and the lifestyle. Where are you going?

However, a reminder: there is this fallacy that the French Top 14 is swimming in money and largesse but well I know from agents, player enquiries and the like that the Munster lads are hardly slumming it in the bargain basement either. They are unbelievably well paid. Maybe that’s a potential issue in itself.

I had a conversation with a player in Ireland about possible terms and conditions coming over here to France and I broke out laughing at his figures. Are ya dreamin, kid? Just look at the salary cap investigations in France, and you get a sense of the reality here.

It’s a grind now all the way to the play-offs. Bordeaux may be heavily rotated coming to our place on Saturday. Before the Champions Cup quarter-final, I thought Toulouse’s forwards would beat up Bordeaux, but the opposite happened. It was an unbelievable performance. But we finally have a few lads back from injury even though we won’t have Uini Atonio again, Will Skelton remains out with an Achilles and Levani Botia has a bad calf injury. Without them you have to play a different way, and people will see our team in a different light without a big scrum and maul energy.

The extra percentages are to be found in culture and standards. They count for so much. In Munster as in La Rochelle. Local voices and good professionals are a potent mix and when you have them in the same individual, you must cherish them. That’s the north star. Local lads driving the project. Driving the culture.

Give me that and I’ll drive anywhere to sign him.

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u/SlowWay5886 — 5 days ago
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Indo: Resignations in Munster due to Randle hiring

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/munster-rugby/munster-facing-bitter-fallout-over-roger-randle-appointment-after-rape-accusations-resurface/a2066336677.html

The Irish Independent understands that the three former players who are independent members of the province’s Professional Games Board (PGB) – Billy Holland, Killian Keane and Mick O’Driscoll – stepped down earlier this week because of their objections to the appointment. More resignations may follow.

It is understood that the appointment was driven by McMillan with Costello and Flanagan also involved. The IRFU say the recruitment of assistant coaches is an issue for Munster.

The decision was presented to the PGB after an agreement with Randle had been reached, a major cause of concern for the committee.

u/SlowWay5886 — 6 days ago

Munster u18 schools squad

Munster schools squad who played Ulster recently:

Prop
Jay Walsh(Castletroy)
Sam Golden(Ardscoil)
William Powell(Roscrea)
Kyle Yoxhall(Munchins)
Danny Field(CBC)
Bobby Meagher(Munchins)

Hooker
Sam Fogarty(Roscrea)
Harry O'Dwyer(Crescent)
Leo Carmen(Ardscoil)

Lock
Flynn Cooke(Glenstal)
Jacob Sweetnam(Brandon)
Andrew O'Connor(Castletroy)
Mark Whelton(Bandon)

Backrow
Ronan Dillon(PBC)
Sean Ryan(Crescent)
Ruaidhri Mcelwain(CBC)
Davis Fitzpatrick(Crescent)
Logan Robertson(PBC)

Scrumhalf
Mike Murphy(CBC)
Oliver Cantrell(Crescent)

Outhalf
Harry Quinlan(CBC)
Cameron Fitzpatrick(Rockwell)

Centre
Alex Fennell(Munchins)
Matthew McCarthy(PBC)
Conal Rowan(Glenstal)
Darragh Mullane(Munchins)

Back Three
Gearoid Hickey(Crescent)
Colin McNamara(Ardscoil)
Adam Bennett(Crescent)
Hugh Downey(CBC)
Alex Bramoulle(Bandon)

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u/SlowWay5886 — 11 days ago