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Why Do We Remember Only a Few Figures From a Larger Tradition? (Sikh Gurus, Tirthankaras, Vishnu Avatars, and Jesus’ Disciples)

Why Do We Remember Only a Few Figures From a Larger Tradition? (Sikh Gurus, Tirthankaras, Vishnu Avatars, and Jesus’ Disciples)

We often assume we know religious traditions well, but in reality our collective memory tends to reduce complex traditions into just a few well-known figures.

For example, Sikhism has 10 Gurus, yet most people can only name 2–3 of them. Similarly, Jainism speaks of 24 Tirthankaras, but only a few names are widely remembered. In Hindu traditions, there are many avatars of Vishnu, yet popular discourse usually revolves around a handful. Even in Christianity, while Jesus had multiple disciples, only a few of them are widely recognized by the general public.

Why do societies remember only a few representatives from a much larger tradition?

"Is it because" certain figures became more politically or culturally influential? Is it because stories simplify themselves over time? Or is it simply that human memory prefers symbols over complexity?

u/Rockying_man_Dhruv — 6 hours ago
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u/Rockying_man_Dhruv — 19 hours ago

A = A… or A = End of Thinking?

So this is kind of a continuation of my last post.

I’ve been thinking more about the law of identity (A = A) — like “what is, is.”

And honestly… the more I think about it, the more weird it feels.

The idea behind it is simple: . don’t over-interpret .don’t add your own meanings .just accept the thing as it is

Sounds logical, right?

But here’s where it starts bothering me.

It feels like this law is indirectly telling us: “Don’t think too much. Don’t go beyond what’s already defined.”

And that’s where I think it starts limiting us.

This reminds me of something from school.

Like in math, when a teacher says: “Assume this is X for now, we’ll understand it later.”

At that moment, you just accept it and move forward.

And yeah, it helps to solve the problem…

But at the same time, you’re not really understanding it — you’re just following steps.

Now bring this into real discussions.

When people debate or talk about something complex, they often start with fixed definitions like:

“This is what it is”

“This is how it should be understood”

And then the whole conversation just… stops evolving.

It doesn’t feel like a real conversation anymore. More like everyone is just defending their starting assumption.

The law of identity is supposed to help in understanding things clearly, but in practice, people use it as the first step and then never move beyond it.

What if it’s supposed to be the last step instead?

Like after exploring, questioning, doubting then maybe you arrive at something and say: “Okay, now I see what this actually is.”

But if you start with that… then what’s left to explore?

I know this might sound a bit extreme, but sometimes it feels like even the normal use of this law is unnecessary.

Not saying it has zero value… but the way we use it it just shuts down thinking way too early.

Maybe I’m wrong tho.

Just feels like we confuse clarity with closure and then stop thinking altogether.

What do you guys think?

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u/Rockying_man_Dhruv — 1 day ago

Is the “Law of Identity” Limiting Our Thinking More Than Helping It?

I might be wrong, but I want to explore a thought that has been on my mind.

We often use something like the Law of Identity the idea that giving a concept a clear name, definition, or label helps us understand and communicate it better.

And in many cases, it does.

For example, imagine someone who independently arrives at a complex idea (say, something like antinatalism), but doesn’t know what to call it. Without a term, it becomes difficult to explain, structure, or even search for it.

So in that sense, identity (naming) helps.

But here’s where my question begins:

Can this same process also limit thinking?

Let me explain with an analogy.

Imagine writing all letters from A to Z randomly on a board. At that point, there is no fixed meaning only possibilities.

Your mind can explore countless combinations, patterns, and interpretations.

But the moment you organize those letters into a fixed sentence like: “The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog”

you’ve created one clear meaning.

Useful, yes. But at the same time, you’ve reduced infinite possibilities into one fixed structure.

So the thought is:

Does labeling something too early stop deeper exploration?

I’ve noticed this in discussions as well.

For example, when talking about emotions, people often say: “Emotions are subjective.”

This label can be helpful but sometimes it also ends the conversation too quickly.

Instead of exploring what emotions actually are, we settle with a definition.

Another analogy:

We give children puzzles not because we want them to reach the answer immediately, but because the process of figuring it out develops their thinking.

But as we grow older, we often stop engaging with “open puzzles.” We prefer fixed answers, fixed labels, fixed identities.

Even simple things like LEGO blocks or a deck of cards show this contrast:

One approach: “Cards are for playing games.”

Another approach: People use the same cards to build towers, structures, even world records.

Same object - different outcomes.

So maybe the question is:

Should identity (labels, definitions) be used as a tool or are we unknowingly turning it into a limitation?

My current view:

Maybe identity should be used more like a tool or even a “last step” after exploration, not before it.

Something that helps us communicate, but doesn’t restrict how we think.

I could be completely wrong here, so I’d genuinely like to hear different perspectives on this.

u/Rockying_man_Dhruv — 1 day ago

WE MISSED THE POINT.

काल करे सो आज कर, आज करे सो अब पल में प्रलय होएगी, बहुरि करेगा कब।” — Kabir

People usually take it as a simple message about not procrastinating, but the more I sit with it, the more it feels existential rather than just practical.

Kabir lived in a time where nature had a kind of balance. There was uncertainty, but not at the scale we see today. Now we live in a world where we constantly hear about climate instability, water scarcity, and global risks. Whether everything collapses or not isn’t even the point.

The point is: we know, at some level, that the future isn’t guaranteed. And still almost everything about how we live assumes that it is, We take on decades of debt , delay living for “later. And sacrifice the present for a version of the future that may never come.

And the strange part is it doesn’t even feel like a choice anymore. It feels like default programming.

We call it responsibility. But a lot of it isn’t survival, it’s extended desire. More comfort. More security. More validation. And in chasing that, we quietly give up the only thing that’s actually real: the present.

So we end up in this state where we’re not really living but we’re just maintaining a system. That’s where this line hits differently for me.

Not as a warning about laziness, but as a question: If everything can end in a moment, what exactly are you postponing your life for? Because “later” is an assumption. Not a promise.

I’m not saying planning is wrong, or that responsibilities don’t matter. But there’s a difference between preparing for the future and abandoning the present in its name.

And I think most of us don’t even realize when we cross that line. Maybe the real meaning isn’t “do everything now.” Maybe it’s simpler, and more uncomfortable: Don’t keep pushing your life into a future that only exists in your head.

(https://youtu.be/uMl-oO6UH1I?si=OF8jRZFyo9n1o7T3)

u/Rockying_man_Dhruv — 1 day ago