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Most businesses don’t have a marketing problem. They have a systems problem.

Over the last few years, one thing became very obvious to me:

A lot of businesses struggle with growth not because the product is bad — but because the systems around the product are weak.

Communication breaks.
Positioning becomes unclear.
Teams lose consistency.
Customers stop trusting the experience.

That realization is a huge reason why I started building ATFRO.

The goal was never just “running campaigns” or making brands look cool online.

It was building systems that help businesses:

  • communicate better
  • operate more smoothly
  • build trust more consistently
  • connect with people more authentically

I recently turned this entire philosophy into a visual founder-story carousel and honestly wanted to know:

Do you think businesses today over-focus on marketing and under-focus on systems?

Would genuinely love different perspectives on this.

u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 4 hours ago
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Why Most Brands Don’t Fail From Lack of Ambition They Fail From Weak Infrastructure?

Most businesses approach branding as a visibility problem.

In reality, it’s usually an infrastructure problem.

A brand may generate attention for a short period of time through content, advertising, or trend-driven growth — but without structural consistency underneath, that momentum rarely compounds.

Modern brands are no longer built only through campaigns.
They are engineered through systems.

That includes:

  • positioning clarity
  • communication architecture
  • operational consistency
  • digital infrastructure
  • audience trust loops
  • scalable brand systems

When these layers reinforce each other, growth becomes predictable and sustainable rather than reactive.

This philosophy became the foundation behind ATFRO Systems and our recent manifesto:
“The Brand That Builds Brands.”

The core idea is simple:
visibility may attract attention, but systems are what create long-term authority and compounding growth.

The future will likely belong to brands designed with infrastructure thinking rather than short-term marketing thinking.

www.atfro.com

u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 9 hours ago
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The Truth About Vedam School of Technology — Please Read Before Spending Lakhs

I know this post will trigger some people, but students and parents deserve transparency before investing their time, money, and future into a college.
This is based on my personal experience and observations as a student.
Before joining Vedam, I saw:
insane marketing,

startup-style branding,

success stories everywhere,

“industry-ready education,”

big mentor names,

futuristic campus videos,

influencer-style promotions,

promises of internships, startups, placements, and innovation.

Honestly, it looked like the future of engineering education.
But after joining, the reality felt VERY different.

1. Vedam Feels More Like A Brand Than A Proper College
This is the biggest issue.
The college is EXTREMELY good at marketing.
If you look online, you’ll think:
this is some revolutionary Silicon Valley-style institute,

students are building startups every day,

mentors are constantly guiding students,

and everyone is getting insane opportunities.

But inside the college, the actual systems feel weak and unorganized.
It sometimes feels like more effort goes into:
Instagram content,

branding,

reels,

founder image,

promotional videos,
than building strong academics and proper systems.

A futuristic website does not automatically mean quality education.

2. No Proper Attendance Or Academic System
Even normal tier-3 colleges have:
ERP systems,

proper attendance tracking,

portals,

transparency.

But here, things often feel unclear and messy.
Students don’t even have proper clarity regarding:
attendance,

academic tracking,

internal systems,

proper structure.

For a college that claims to be modern and innovative, basic management systems are surprisingly weak.

3. Internal Marks Feel Completely Non-Transparent
This is one of the biggest frustrations among students.
We are told internals depend on:
contests,

assignments,

participation,

projects,

performance.

But there is no proper transparency regarding how marks are actually calculated.
Many students genuinely feel favoritism exists.
People who stay close to teachers or constantly flatter them seem to receive better treatment and better marks.
Meanwhile, students who quietly work hard are left confused.
A college should reward:
merit,

skill,

hard work,
NOT politics or favoritism.

4. Maths Teaching Is Shockingly Bad
This honestly shocked me.
There were lectures where students were literally made to watch YouTube videos instead of receiving proper teaching.
Imagine paying lakhs just to sit in class and watch YouTube.
And on top of that:
proper maths faculty availability feels weak,

non-maths faculty sometimes handled maths,

doubt solving is inconsistent,

teaching quality feels poor.

Engineering students NEED strong maths fundamentals.
Instead, students are often forced to self-study most concepts.

5. Faculty & Mentors Shown Online vs Reality
This is something students should verify VERY carefully before joining.
A lot of mentors/faculty shown online:
are rarely available,

rarely interact with students,

or don’t regularly teach students at all.

The online image creates the impression that students constantly learn from top industry mentors.
Reality feels very different.
Some mentors listed online don’t seem actively involved with students regularly.

6. Students’ Personal Achievements Are Used For Branding
This personally bothered me the most.
There are students who:
already had skills,

already built projects,

already knew development,

already had portfolios BEFORE joining Vedam.

But later, their achievements are presented online in a way that makes it seem like the college created that success.
In my own case:
A project/video of mine was posted implying it was built during my time at Vedam.
Reality?
I had already built it BEFORE joining.
Many talented students succeed because of:
their own hard work,

self-learning,

networking,

previous experience,
NOT because the college magically transformed them.

There’s a difference between:
“supporting students”
and
“taking indirect credit for work students already did.”

7. Internship Reality Feels Overhyped
The internship marketing online creates a massive impression.
But from what I’ve personally observed:
many opportunities come through personal connections,

or through the same few startups repeatedly associated with the college.

Students should ask:
how many students actually got internships,

which companies,

paid or unpaid,

what the stipend was,

whether opportunities were truly merit-based.

The marketing feels much bigger than the actual ecosystem.

8. Referral Culture Exists
Students and parents should know this too.
There seems to be a strong referral culture where students get incentives for bringing admissions.
So naturally, many students publicly promote the college very heavily online.
Again:
Not every positive review is fake.
But not every review is unbiased either.
That’s why you should NEVER rely only on:
student ambassadors,

promotional accounts,

Instagram reels,

influencer-style videos.

Talk privately to REAL current students.

9. Events & Management Feel Extremely Weak
This is another major issue.
Many events feel:
rushed,

poorly managed,

badly coordinated,

unprofessional,

and chaotic.

There often seems to be no proper structure or execution planning.
For a college that markets itself at such a high level, the actual management quality feels disappointing.

10. One Person I Genuinely Respect
I’ll be fair here.
Subhesh Sir is genuinely one of the few faculty members who actually teaches sincerely and helps students properly.
Huge respect to him.
He explains concepts properly and genuinely tries to help students.
But joining an entire college because of one good teacher is a mistake.
A college should have a complete strong ecosystem — not depend on one or two sincere people carrying everything.

11. The Biggest Problem — Students & Parents Are Sold A Dream
This is what hurts the most.
Middle-class families are spending lakhs because they believe:
this college is different,

modern,

future-focused,

industry-ready.

Parents trust the branding and promises.
Students trust the marketing.
But many students later realize that the actual experience does not match the image sold online.
And by then:
your money is gone,

your time is gone,

and your degree journey has already started.

12. Please Research Properly Before Joining
Don’t join just because:
the branding looks cool,

the founders sound inspiring,

influencers promote it,

students hype it online,

or the campus videos look futuristic.

Research properly.
Talk to REAL students privately.
Ask difficult questions.
Verify everything yourself.
Personally, if I had to choose again, I would seriously explore alternatives like:
Newton School of Technology

Scaler School of Technology

or even established colleges with proper systems and transparency.

Because at the end of the day:
this is your parents’ hard-earned money.
Don’t spend lakhs purely on branding and promises.
This post is purely based on my personal experience and opinions.
#VedamSchoolOfTechnology #EngineeringCollege #CollegeReview #StudentExperience #BTech #EngineeringLife #IndiaEducation #CollegeReality #TechEducation #CollegeTruth #VedamTruth

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Latest Gemini Update is just insane as f**k!!

Everyone’s focused on GPT image generation right now, but Google Gemini’s latest Workspace updates honestly feel underrated.

Gemini can now:

  • generate Docs
  • build Sheets dashboards
  • create presentations
  • convert slides into videos
  • understand Workspace context across apps

The interesting part is how connected everything feels inside Google Workspace.

This doesn’t really feel like “AI tools” anymore.
It feels like Google is building an AI-native workflow system for work itself.

Curious to see where this goes over the next year.

u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 2 days ago
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Found and reported a Flutter + Xcode beta deployment blocker related to extended attribute cleanup

Recently while working on a client Flutter application for iOS, I ran into a deployment blocker on the latest macOS + Xcode beta toolchain.

The build consistently failed during debug_unpack_ios with:

>

After tracing the issue further, I found that Flutter’s current cleanup implementation removes:

xattr -r -d com.apple.FinderInfo

But newer Xcode beta validation appears stricter and also rejects additional extended attributes such as:

com.apple.ResourceFork

Replacing it with:

xattr -cr

resolved the issue successfully by recursively clearing all extended attributes.

I reported the findings to:

  • Flutter issue #186372
  • Apple Feedback Assistant → FB22756923

Thought this was an interesting debugging journey because the issue wasn’t inside the app itself — it was buried inside the tooling/codesigning pipeline.

Would be interesting to know if anyone else on the beta toolchain has encountered similar behavior.

u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 3 days ago

We launched ATFRO a modern creative studio focused on building standout brands

Hey everyone,

After months of work, we’ve officially launched ATFRO.

ATFRO is a creative studio focused on branding, strategy, websites, and digital experiences designed to help modern brands grow with clarity and presence.

We tried to build something that feels minimal, intentional, elegant, and growth-oriented — not just visually, but in the overall experience as well.

Would genuinely love feedback on:
• Brand identity
• Website design
• Positioning
• Overall experience
• First impressions

🌐 atfro.com

Open to honest feedback and suggestions. Appreciate you all. 🚀

u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 5 days ago
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How our startup ended up supporting Indian Medical Association election campaign operations?

A few months ago, our team at ATFRO got the opportunity to work alongside the Indian Medical Association (IMA), Pusad branch, during their election campaign operations.

The interesting part wasn’t just the campaign itself — it was understanding how much operational complexity exists behind the scenes in organizations during high-pressure workflows.

Our work mainly focused on:
• outreach coordination
• engagement tracking
• communication workflows
• operational management systems

One thing we learned quickly:
Most operational problems are not caused by lack of effort — they’re caused by fragmented systems and inefficient communication structures.

Working closely in a real-world environment helped us understand how important scalable systems actually are when organizations need speed, coordination, and clarity at the same time.

Recently, we also received an appreciation letter from the IMA leadership for the support provided during the process, which honestly meant a lot to our team.

Still early in the journey, but experiences like these are shaping what we’re building at ATFRO moving forward.

u/Business_Sport_6843 — 4 days ago
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We’re launching our startup in 48 hours but most of the work already happened before launch day.

Most startups spend months building hype before they have proof.

We decided to do the opposite.

Our startup, ATFRO, officially launches in 48 hours but before launch:

• We delivered a full-scale email marketing campaign for IMA Maharashtra
• Built our product “ATFRO Studio” to 50+ beta users with a 4.8/5 rating
• Had 14+ founder calls around branding, growth, and distribution
• Got 180+ inbound inquiries organically zero paid ads
• Started live marketing campaigns through our marketing division, ATFRO Pigeon

No PR.
No influencer campaigns.
No funding announcements.

Just execution and word of mouth.

One thing we realized while building:

The internet rewards noise quickly.
But real trust compounds slowly.

Curious how other founders here approached their pre-launch phase.

Did you build quietly first, or launch publicly from day one?

u/Business_Sport_6843 — 6 days ago
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This honestly felt surreal to me.

A while back, searching my name online barely showed anything meaningful. Today, searching “Sidhant Pande” actually brings up my website, projects, work, books and professional presence properly across platforms.

What surprised me even more was seeing AI tools recognize and connect information about my work online.

It’s not some massive achievement, but as someone building in public, it feels rewarding to see years of consistency slowly becoming visible on the internet.

A reminder that even small progress matters.

u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 7 days ago

Most early-stage Indian startups operate informally for years before formalizing governance structures.

ATFRO seems to have gone the opposite route — incorporating as a Pvt Ltd, setting up a founders' agreement with cliff vesting, arbitration clauses, and an ESOP pool before even launching.

What was the reasoning behind front-loading all of this legal and governance infrastructure?

Is it a signal to potential institutional clients that ATFRO is a professionally run, accountable organization?

Is it designed to protect the founding team from future conflict — since with five co-founders, misalignment is statistically inevitable?

Or is it laying groundwork for a future fundraise where clean cap tables and governance documentation become investor diligence requirements?

Would love to hear the CEO's philosophy on why governance structure is a strategic asset and not just administrative overhead at such an early stage.

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

This tension has killed a lot of promising firms.

Pure consulting companies struggle to scale because they're people-dependent and margin-constrained.
Pure product or SaaS companies struggle to get traction without a strong sales motion and distribution network.

ATFRO seems to be trying to occupy both spaces, which is ambitious but risky.

As CEO, how do you think about this duality strategically?

Is consulting the Trojan horse — a way to get in the door with clients, understand their problems deeply, and then build scalable software products on top of those learnings?

Or is technology the differentiator that makes the consulting more valuable — proprietary tools, platforms, and automation that competitors simply can't replicate?

What guardrails exist to prevent ATFRO from becoming a glorified body shop that does custom development for whoever pays the most?

And how do you ensure that IP and methodologies developed through consulting engagements feed back into a defensible technology moat over time?

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

I respect the transparency of being upfront about being pre-launch — a lot of companies pretend they're further along than they are.

But I'd love a genuine, unfiltered update from the CEO:

Where exactly is ATFRO right now?
Do you have any signed clients, letters of intent, design partners, or paid pilots in progress?

Is there a product or platform in active development, or is the current revenue model purely service-based consulting?

What are the three biggest challenges the founding team is navigating at this stage:

  • sales pipeline
  • technical buildout
  • team hiring
  • or something operational like cash flow?

What does "launch" actually mean for ATFRO — is there a specific date, milestone, or deliverable that marks the official go-live?

And honestly, what is the thing that keeps you up at night as CEO of a pre-launch B2B company operating in one of the most competitive consulting markets in the world?

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

The founding team of any early-stage B2B company is probably the single most important signal about whether the venture will succeed.

I'd love to understand who the co-founders of ATFRO are — not just titles, but actual domain expertise, past work experience, industries they've operated in, and what each person uniquely brings to the table.

Was the founding team assembled deliberately around skill complementarity — one person handling tech, one handling sales, one handling strategy — or did it form organically through shared experience?

How did they meet, and was there a specific inflection point — a failed project at a previous job, a client problem they couldn't solve elsewhere, or a market gap they independently identified — that made them say "we need to build ATFRO"?

Also, how are roles and decision-making authority divided among the five, and what mechanisms exist to prevent the classic co-founder conflict that kills companies before they even reach product-market fit?

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

The name ATFRO — Architecting Transformations For Robust Outcomes — sounds bold, but I'd love the CEO to break it down in real-world terms.

What is the core pain point ATFRO is addressing for B2B clients?
Is it digital transformation fatigue, broken internal processes, lack of technical execution capacity, or something more nuanced?

Most mid-market and enterprise companies in India already work with consultants — so what specific gap exists in the market that ATFRO was built to fill?

Can you walk us through a real or hypothetical client scenario:

  • the before state
  • what ATFRO does
  • and the measurable outcome on the other side?

How does the solution differ depending on whether the client is:

  • a bootstrapped startup
  • a Series B company
  • or a large enterprise?

Understanding the problem-solution fit in concrete, jargon-free terms would help a lot of us evaluate whether ATFRO is solving a real problem or riding a buzzword wave.

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

Body:

These two terms are always mentioned together but they measure different things. Understanding both is non-negotiable for any founder managing a pre-profitable business.

Burn Rate The amount of money your company spends each month, net of any revenue coming in.

  • Gross burn = total monthly expenses
  • Net burn = monthly expenses minus monthly revenue

If you spend ₹8,00,000 a month and bring in ₹3,00,000 in revenue, your net burn is ₹5,00,000.

Runway How many months you can continue operating before you run out of cash.

Runway = Cash in bank ÷ Monthly net burn

If you have ₹50,00,000 in the bank and your net burn is ₹5,00,000, you have 10 months of runway.

Why both matter simultaneously:

Burn rate tells you how efficiently you're operating. Runway tells you how much time you have to figure it out.

A high burn rate with long runway might be fine — if you're growing fast enough to justify the spend. A low burn rate with short runway is a crisis — because even being lean can't save you if you're almost out of cash.

The mistake most founders make: They track revenue obsessively and ignore burn. Or they know their burn but haven't calculated their runway in months. Both numbers need to be reviewed monthly, minimum.

Most startups don't die from bad ideas. They die from running out of time without realizing it was running out.

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

Product-Market Fit (PMF) is the point at which your product solves a real problem well enough that customers pull it out of your hands faster than you can build it.

That's the feeling of it. Here's the structure of it:

The Sean Ellis test — survey your active users and ask: "How would you feel if you could no longer use this product?" If more than 40% say "very disappointed," you likely have PMF. Below 40%, you don't.

Retention curves — if you plot user retention over time and it flattens (meaning a segment keeps coming back consistently rather than everyone dropping off), that's a PMF signal. No PMF = retention curve hits zero eventually.

Organic demand — people are finding you without you pushing. Word of mouth is happening without incentives. You're getting inbound requests you didn't directly generate.

What PMF is NOT:

  • Launch day traffic
  • Positive feedback from friends and family
  • A successful crowdfunding campaign
  • Good press coverage

PMF is behavioral, not emotional. People paying, returning, and telling others — consistently — is the only evidence that counts.

Why it matters more than anything else: Before PMF, your job is iteration and survival. Every rupee spent on scaling before PMF is a rupee wasted because you're scaling something that doesn't work yet. After PMF, your job becomes capacity and scale.

The hard truth: if you have to ask whether you have it, you probably don't. PMF is usually felt before it's measured.

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

"Business transformation" sounds big and abstract. Here's what it actually looks like in practice when working with a company like ATFRO.

Week 1-2 — Diagnosis Before anything is built or changed, the team does a full audit. What's working, what isn't, where revenue is coming from, what the brand actually communicates versus what the founder thinks it communicates, what the tech stack looks like, and what the team's actual capacity is.

Week 3-4 — Strategic alignment This is where the direction gets set. Who is the ideal customer? What is the one thing this business needs to do better than anyone else? What does the next 6 months of growth actually look like in concrete terms — not aspirational terms?

Month 2 onwards — Systems build This is the execution phase. Depending on what the business needs, this could mean: rebuilding the brand identity, creating a go-to-market playbook, building or fixing the website and product, setting up marketing systems, or restructuring operations so the founder isn't the single point of failure for everything.

Ongoing — Iteration Markets move. What worked in month 1 needs to be refined by month 3. A good transformation partner doesn't just hand over a finished product — they stay close enough to catch what isn't working before it becomes a crisis.

The day-to-day is less glamorous than the word "transformation" implies. It's mostly structured thinking, clear communication, and disciplined execution. That's what actually changes businesses.

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

Most consulting firms do one of two things — they either give you a strategy document you never fully implement, or they specialize so narrowly (just branding, just tech, just marketing) that you end up hiring four different agencies and spending more time coordinating them than running your business.

ATFRO is built differently for a specific reason: early-stage and growing businesses don't have the luxury of siloed solutions. A positioning problem is also a marketing problem. A technology decision is also a business model decision. Everything is connected.

The way ATFRO operates:

Integrated approach — Strategy, branding, marketing, and technology are treated as one system, not four separate engagements. Changes in one area are always considered against their impact on the others.

Builder mindset — The team has actually built businesses, not just consulted on them. The advice comes from experience, not frameworks copied from MBA textbooks.

Outcome focus — The measure of success isn't deliverables. It's whether the business is actually operating better, growing faster, or running more independently after the engagement.

Right-sized for growth stage — ATFRO works with startups and scaling businesses, not Fortune 500 companies. The language, the pace, and the expectations are calibrated for founders who are moving fast with limited resources.

More at atfro.com

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 10 days ago

ATFRO (Architecting Transformations For Robust Outcomes) is a business transformation company built for startups and growing businesses that are past the idea stage but not yet operating like a proper company.

Most early businesses have one of three problems:

They have a product but no system around it no clear positioning, no repeatable marketing, no structured operations. Everything runs on the founder's energy and nothing scales without them.

They have revenue but no direction they're making money but don't know which customers to focus on, which services to double down on, or how to grow without burning out.

They have ambition but no execution infrastructure the vision is clear but the team, the tools, and the processes aren't built to support it yet.

ATFRO works across four areas: Strategy & Operations, Marketing & Growth, Branding & Positioning, and Technology & Product. The goal isn't to hand over a presentation and walk away it's to build the actual systems the business runs on.

The team is based out of Pune, India and works with founders across industries.

If you want to learn more or book a call: atfro.com

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 11 days ago
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Been building a business transformation company for the past year. One thing we kept noticing founders use terms like "moat" or "PMF" in conversations but when you dig in, the understanding is surface level. Not their fault. Nobody actually explains these properly.

So here's a clean breakdown of 7 terms worth genuinely understanding:

1. Product-Market Fit Not a launch milestone. A phase shift. Before PMF your only job is survival and iteration. After PMF your job is scale. If you have to ask whether you have it, you don't.

2. Moat A structural advantage that protects your margins from competitors. First-mover advantage isn't a moat — it's a head start. Real moats are network effects, proprietary data, switching costs, or brand gravity. Without one, you compete purely on price.

3. Burn Rate & Runway Burn is how fast you lose cash monthly. Runway is how many months until you hit zero. Most startups don't die from bad ideas they die from running out of time without knowing it.

4. CAC vs. LTV CAC is what you spend to acquire a customer. LTV is what they're worth over their lifetime. If CAC exceeds LTV, your business model is structurally broken you're bleeding out with every sale. Healthy ratio is 3:1 minimum.

5. Flywheel A self-reinforcing loop where each part of your business accelerates the others. Takes massive energy to start. Once spinning, momentum takes over. True scale happens when growth becomes a byproduct of your system, not brute force effort.

6. Default Alive vs. Default Dead The most sobering calculation a founder can make. On current growth and spending with zero new funding do you reach profitability or run out of money? Most founders avoid answering this. They shouldn't.

7. North Star Metric The single metric that best captures the core value your product delivers. Revenue is a trailing indicator. The North Star is the leading one. It aligns every team product, engineering, marketing toward one unified definition of winning.

We put together a full glossary of 50 terms like these across Strategy, Marketing, Branding, and Product if anyone wants it. Happy to share in the comments.

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u/Primary_Dragonfly801 — 11 days ago