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📂 So much happening — moving to a live breakdown (0:00–0:23)

• NAG explains there are too many filings and issues to cover in separate videos
• She’ll be going live with Little Girl Attorney and Britt to break everything down in one session
• This reflects how complex and fast-moving the case has become at this stage

🔥 The unexpected twist: Vanzan (0:23–0:52)

• NAG highlights that Vanzan resurfaced in a surprising way
• Many expected the defense to try to exclude those materials
• Instead, the situation flipped, making it a key issue again

⚖️ What everyone expected vs what actually happened (0:52–1:32)

• The expectation:
  • Wayfarer Studios would file a motion in limine
  • Goal would be to exclude documents obtained via Vanzan subpoena
• Reality:
  • They did not attempt to exclude the material
• This signals a major strategic shift

🧠 Possible reasons the defense didn’t exclude it (1:32–2:30)

• NAG runs through several possibilities:
  • Case law may not support exclusion
  • The information might come in anyway (e.g., via media coverage or judicial notice)
  • Witness availability issues could limit how the evidence is used regardless
• But she suggests these are not the main reason

💥 The real reason: public reaction (2:30–3:04)

• NAG believes the public reaction to Vanzan changed strategy
• She notes that people reacted strongly and negatively
• This likely signaled to the defense:
  • The material could be persuasive to a jury

🔄 The “uno reverse”: Lively tries to exclude it (3:04–3:58)

• Instead of the defense, it is Blake Lively who filed a motion to exclude Vanzan-related evidence
• Her argument:
  • It is irrelevant to the claims
  • It unfairly paints her side as engaging in misconduct
• NAG notes this reversal is highly strategic and telling

🎯 Why the defense now wants it in (3:58–4:31)

• NAG explains the defense likely sees this evidence as:
  • A way to shape how the jury perceives Lively’s side
  • Evidence that could undermine credibility or narrative
• Even if the content itself has risks, the impression it creates may be valuable

⚠️ Important legal point: objections still exist (4:31–5:19)

• NAG clarifies that:
  • Not filing a motion in limine does not waive objections
• The defense can still:
  • Object during trial
  • Challenge how the evidence is presented
• This gives them flexibility to adapt in real time

🧑‍⚖️ Strategy: letting the jury see it play out (5:19–5:49)

• NAG suggests the defense may prefer:
  • Letting the issue unfold in front of the jury
  • Objecting selectively rather than blocking it entirely
• This can be a way to subtly introduce character-type impressions without formally doing so

📱 Reputation now front and center (5:49–6:39)

• Another motion shows Lively trying to exclude her own public statements
• NAG points out:
  • Lively’s reputation is central to the remaining claims
• This may open the door for broader evidence about:
  • Public perception
  • Media narratives

⚖️ Likely judicial approach (6:39–6:50)

• NAG suggests the judge may allow some of this evidence
• Especially if it directly relates to reputation, which is now at issue

🎯 Final takeaway: strategy over “obvious” moves (6:50–end)

• A key litigation lesson:
  • The obvious move (exclude damaging evidence) isn’t always the best move
• The defense appears to have decided:
  • It’s more beneficial to use Vanzan than to exclude it
• This case shows a deeper strategy behind trial decisions and why litigation can be so dynamic and fascinating

⚖️ Breaking down the retaliation issue more simply (0:00–0:18)

• LGA revisits the retaliation discussion because it’s legally complex and easy to misunderstand
• The focus is on protected activity, which is a required element of any retaliation claim
• Without protected activity, the entire retaliation claim collapses

📌 What counts as protected activity (0:18–0:39)

• Protected activity means opposing or complaining about conduct that is illegal under California Fair Employment and Housing Act
• The court previously analyzed whether Lively had a subjective and objective reasonable belief that she was opposing unlawful conduct
• That “reasonable belief” standard is key to whether the claim can proceed

🌍 The location problem: New Jersey vs California (0:39–1:12)

• LGA explains the defense argument:
  • All alleged harassment occurred in New Jersey
  • Therefore, it is not covered by FEHA, which is a California law
• Because of that, the conduct cannot form the basis of a valid FEHA claim

🔗 Why this destroys “protected activity” (1:12–1:43)

• If the conduct wasn’t illegal under FEHA:
  • Then Lively could not reasonably believe she was opposing illegal conduct under FEHA
• Without that reasonable basis:
  • There is no protected activity
• And without protected activity:
  • There is no retaliation claim

🤸 The “jumping jacks” analogy (1:43–3:07)

• LGA uses a simplified example:
  • Imagine California bans doing three jumping jacks in a row
  • An employee in Wyoming sees people doing jumping jacks and reports it as illegal
• But:
  • Wyoming law allows it
  • California law doesn’t apply there
• So even if the employee believes it’s illegal, they are wrong — and their complaint is not protected

💡 Key takeaway from the analogy (3:07–3:22)

• A mistaken belief about the law is not enough
• The conduct must actually fall within the scope of the law being invoked
• Otherwise, the retaliation framework does not apply at all

🧠 Why the argument is so strong (3:22–3:31)

• LGA emphasizes this is a tight, logical legal argument
• It directly attacks a required element of the claim rather than disputing facts
• That makes it difficult to counter

⏳ Timing of the motion (3:31–3:49)

• LGA explains that filing this motion now is procedurally allowed
• Motions for judgment on the pleadings can be brought up until shortly before trial
• The timing aligns with the judge’s earlier ruling and guidance

⚖️ Will the judge be annoyed? (3:49–4:17)

• LGA doesn’t think the judge will be frustrated by this motion
• It is tied directly to the court’s prior order and raises a legitimate legal issue
• It may actually help streamline the trial by narrowing what needs to be decided

🎯 Final takeaway (4:17–end)

• This motion could eliminate the retaliation claim entirely if successful
• The argument hinges on a simple but powerful idea:
  • If the law never applied, you can’t claim protection under it

⚖️ Two major dispositive motions just dropped (0:00–0:19)

• NAG explains that two significant legal motions have been filed that could reshape the case before trial even begins
• These include a summary judgment motion and a renewed motion for judgment on the pleadings, both aimed at eliminating claims entirely
• Importantly, these were not random filings — the judge had previously signaled openness to these arguments, effectively inviting them

🧩 Motion 1: TAG shouldn’t be liable under FEHA (0:19–1:11)

• The first motion argues that TAG, as a PR firm, cannot be liable for aiding and abetting retaliation under California Fair Employment and Housing Act
• The defense emphasizes that FEHA is designed to regulate employment relationships and decisions, not external PR strategies
• Since TAG was not hiring, firing, managing, or supervising employees, they argue it falls completely outside FEHA’s scope

🤔 NAG’s long-standing skepticism (1:11–1:39)

• NAG points out she has consistently questioned how PR activity could legally qualify as an adverse employment action
• She highlights that reputation management and media strategy do not traditionally fit within employment law frameworks
• This motion directly addresses that gap, reinforcing her earlier concerns about the theory of the case

📌 Motion 2: The judge’s “hint” becomes a full argument (1:39–3:02)

• The second motion builds on a subtle but important footnote the judge included in his earlier ruling
• That footnote raised an unresolved legal issue about the geographic scope and applicability of FEHA
• The defense has now expanded that hint into a full legal argument, turning a passing comment into a central attack

🔗 The core legal theory (3:02–4:02)

• Retaliation claims require three elements: protected activity, adverse action, and a causal link between them
• The defense focuses on the first element, arguing that everything else collapses if protected activity doesn’t exist
• Their position is that the complaint itself must be tied to conduct that is actually unlawful under FEHA

💥 The central argument: no protected activity at all (4:02–4:51)

• The defense argues that if California law never applied to Lively’s situation, then she could not have been opposing a violation of that law
• Without a valid underlying legal violation, her complaints cannot qualify as protected activity
• This directly undercuts the entire retaliation claim at its foundation

⚠️ The “slippery slope” strategy (4:51–5:27)

• The motion warns that accepting Lively’s argument would create an overly broad legal precedent
• It would mean complaints about laws from any jurisdiction could trigger FEHA protections if harm is later felt in California
• NAG notes this is a classic legal tactic to show judges the unintended consequences of a ruling

🧠 Conflict with prior ruling (5:27–6:02)

• NAG highlights a tension between this argument and the judge’s earlier decision to let the retaliation claim proceed
• That earlier ruling relied on the idea that Lively may have had a reasonable belief that the law was violated
• The defense now argues that such a belief cannot be reasonable if the law objectively never applied

✍️ Why the motion is powerful (6:02–6:53)

• NAG praises the motion for being concise, strategic, and highly focused on a pure legal issue
• Because it doesn’t rely on disputed facts, the judge can decide it without involving a jury
• This makes it a strong tool for narrowing or eliminating claims before trial

📉 Massive impact if granted (6:53–7:48)

• If the court agrees with this argument, the entire FEHA retaliation claim would be dismissed
• That would likely remove Wayfarer Studios and TAG from the case altogether
• The case would shrink dramatically in scope, affecting both strategy and potential outcomes

🎯 Trial would become much simpler (7:48–8:20)

• Without FEHA claims, the jury would no longer need to evaluate complex issues like harassment, retaliation, or motive
• The focus would shift entirely to contract interpretation and whether it was breached
• This would streamline the trial and reduce the amount of emotionally charged evidence

⚖️ Why this favors the defense (8:20–8:34)

• NAG believes a contract-only case is significantly more favorable to the defense
• Contract disputes are more technical and less driven by narrative or perception
• This limits the plaintiff’s ability to rely on broader reputational or emotional arguments

🔥 Final takeaway (8:34–end)

• NAG describes the motion as a “banger” because of its clarity, precision, and potential impact
• If both dispositive motions succeed, FEHA would be completely removed from the case
• The outcome now heavily depends on how Lively’s legal team counters these arguments moving forward

⚖️ A major new legal move (0:00–0:21)

• LGA explains that Wayfarer Studios, It Ends With Us Movie LLC, and TAG have renewed their motion for judgment on the pleadings
• This targets Lively’s retaliation claim under California Fair Employment and Housing Act
• LGA describes the argument as strategic and potentially case-changing

📍 The foundation: where the conduct happened (0:21–0:41)

• The defense builds on the court’s prior ruling that any alleged harassment occurred in New Jersey
• Because of that, those claims were already dismissed under FEHA due to extraterritorial limits
• FEHA generally does not apply to conduct outside California

🔗 The key argument: no unlawful conduct under FEHA (0:41–1:07)

• FEHA retaliation only applies if someone opposes conduct forbidden under FEHA
• The defense argues:
  • If the conduct happened outside California
  • Then it is not unlawful under FEHA
• Therefore, opposing that conduct cannot support a FEHA retaliation claim

🧠 The logic applied to Lively’s situation (1:07–1:28)

• LGA explains the defense position:
  • Lively was a New York resident
  • Filming occurred in New Jersey
  • The alleged conduct took place outside FEHA’s reach
• Therefore, she was never protected by FEHA in the first place

⚠️ Mistaken belief is not enough (1:28–2:11)

• The defense argues that even if Lively believed she was protected:
  • That belief does not create a valid claim
• FEHA only protects opposition to conduct that is actually unlawful under the statute
• A mistaken understanding of the law does not qualify

📉 Why this is a purely legal issue (2:11–2:30)

• LGA highlights that this argument does not depend on facts
• It is a legal question, meaning the judge can decide it without a jury
• This makes it powerful at this stage

💥 Potential impact if the motion succeeds (2:30–2:57)

• If the court agrees:
  • The FEHA retaliation claim is dismissed
  • Wayfarer Studios and TAG could both be removed from the case
• The jury would no longer need to evaluate retaliation at all

🔄 Ripple effect on other claims (2:57–3:10)

• LGA explains this would also eliminate the aiding and abetting claim against TAG
• That claim depends on the existence of a valid FEHA violation

🎯 Final takeaway (3:10–end)

• LGA calls the argument logically strong and strategically significant
• If successful, it could dramatically narrow the case down to just the contract claim
• She notes this is a critical moment and is watching closely how Lively will respond

⚖️ TAG’s separate motion — what’s at stake (0:00–0:20)

• LGA explains that TAG has been allowed by the court to file a separate summary judgment motion
• This targets Lively’s claim for aiding and abetting retaliation under the California Fair Employment and Housing Act
• This is a key issue that could further narrow the case

🧩 TAG’s core argument (0:20–0:59)

• TAG argues that FEHA liability typically applies in the employer-employee context
• They position themselves as a PR firm, not an entity making employment decisions
• Their role, they argue, is separate from anything governed by FEHA

📚 Comparing to similar cases (0:59–2:11)

• LGA explains cases where third parties can be liable under FEHA
• These involve situations where a company:
  • Outsources HR functions
  • Delegates employment-related decision-making

🤖 Why those cases are different (2:11–3:24)

• TAG distinguishes those cases by arguing:
  • Those third parties acted like the employer
  • They directly impacted employee-related decisions
• TAG says that is not what happened here
• Their work was unrelated to employment decisions

⚠️ The gray area: knowledge and intent (4:38–5:10)

• LGA raises a key question:
  • What if the third party knew their work would be used in a harmful or retaliatory way?
• This could complicate the analysis and potentially expand liability

📉 Policy concern: how far FEHA should go (5:10–5:49)

• Extending FEHA liability to third parties like TAG could be a significant expansion of the law
• There is little direct case law supporting such an extension
• Courts are generally cautious about creating new legal standards

🧑‍⚖️ Likely judicial approach (5:49–6:02)

• LGA suggests Judge Liman may be reluctant to expand FEHA in this way
• If forced to decide without a clear precedent, courts often avoid broad new interpretations

⏳ What happens next (6:02–6:17)

• Lively will have the opportunity to oppose TAG’s motion
• The issue will be fully briefed before the court decides

🎯 Final impact on the case (6:17–end)

• If TAG wins this motion:
  • The aiding and abetting claim is dismissed
  • Only two claims remain:
    • Contract claim
    • FEHA retaliation claim
• This would further narrow the case heading into trial

📂 A flood of filings incoming (0:00–0:13)

• NAG expects a large volume of filings as the case moves closer to trial
• This is the stage where key trial details start getting finalized

⚖️ Push back on Lively’s demands (0:13–0:49)

• NAG explains that Ellyn Garofalo responded to Lively’s team’s request for clarity on witnesses
• The defense pushes back, pointing out:
  • Lively’s team hasn’t clarified their own witness plans
  • Their exhibit list is extremely large (around 1,000 exhibits)
  • They still have a long witness list (around 41 people)
• The defense frames Lively’s approach as overly aggressive and excessive

👥 Who the defense says will appear (0:49–1:12)

• The defense indicates that:
  • Justin Baldoni
  • Jamey Heath
  • Melissa Nathan will testify in person
• Jennifer Abel and Steve Sarowitz will likely appear via using video deposition

🔄 Strategy can still change (1:12–1:37)

• NAG notes these decisions are not final
• Trial strategy can shift depending on how the case develops
• The defense has the flexibility to adjust based on what Lively presents

🧑‍⚖️ Who sits at counsel table (1:37–1:57)

• It’s still unclear who will serve as the corporate representative in court
• Possibilities include Baldoni or Heath
• This decision may affect how the jury perceives the defense

📌 Court shuts down the dispute (1:57–2:30)

• The judge quickly denied Lively’s motion as moot
• NAG interprets this as the court signaling:
  • The parties should resolve logistical issues themselves
  • The judge is focused on moving toward trial

🎭 What this means for trial strategy (2:38–2:50)

• The trial is starting to take shape in terms of who will testify
• NAG begins considering how these witness choices will impact evidence presentation

👀 Who likely won’t show up (2:50–3:04)

• NAG believes certain figure, like Jed Wallace, is unlikely to testify in person
• His testimony will probably be presented through deposition instead

🧠 Strategic curiosity: Nathan vs Abel (3:04–end)

• NAG finds it interesting that Melissa Nathan is being called live instead of Jennifer Abel
• Suggests there is likely a strategic reason behind this choice
• Indicates this decision may become important in understanding the defense’s trial approach

⚖️ Response to the witness dispute (0:00–0:25)

• LGA explains Wayfarer has formally responded to Lively’s demand to clarify which dismissed defendants will appear at trialc

👥 Who the dismissed defendants are (0:25–0:44)

• The individuals at issue include:
  • Justin Baldoni
  • Jamey Heath
  • Steve Sarowitz
  • Melissa Nathan
  • Jennifer Abel
• None of them are parties anymore, and all live outside the court’s subpoena range

🚫 Why they can’t be forced to testify (0:44–1:05)

• Because they are no longer defendants and are outside the jurisdiction, they cannot be compelled to appear
• LGA highlights that this same issue affects both sides, not just Lively

📅 The judge’s ruling makes the dispute moot (1:05–1:18)

• The judge has already ruled that the issue is essentially irrelevant
• Both sides must finalize and identify witnesses according to the pretrial schedule

📌 Key insight: Lively’s trial strategy (1:18–2:15)

• LGA points out a critical statement from Lively’s side:
  • They claim the summary judgment ruling does not change their trial strategy
• Despite losing most claims, they are still preparing:
  • A large witness list
  • An expanding exhibit list
• LGA suggests this indicates a “scorched earth” approach to trial

📈 Fewer claims, more evidence (2:15–2:20)

• Even though only three claims remain, Lively’s team appears to be increasing the volume of evidence
• This raises questions about how all of it ties to the narrowed case

🎭 Who is likely to testify (2:20–2:44)

• LGA notes that contrary to media narratives:
  • Baldoni, Heath, and Nathan are expected to appear in person
• Their testimony will likely focus on rebutting the smear campaign allegations

⚠️ Who may not appear (2:44–3:03)

• Sarowitz and Abel are not expected to appear
• However, Wayfarer reserves the right to call them if they choose to attend voluntarily

📂 What’s coming next (3:47–end)

• Upcoming filings will provide more clarity:
  • Final witness lists
  • Exhibit lists
  • Motions in limine (possibly under seal)
• These filings will give a clearer picture of how the trial will unfold