u/OppositeCucumber2003

I'm currently split between Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy

Currently I'm deciding whether I should become Eastern or Oriental Orthodox. I have looked at many debates and many arguments from both sides, and it seems to me that both sides have extremely strong cases. However, I'm currently more leaning towards EO for a couple of reasons. I'll name just some of them:

  1. Miaphysitism has its origins with Apollinarius, who "forged" some letters and attributed them to St Athanasius. It is safe to say that St Cyril used those letters not knowing they were forgeries.
  2. Council of Chalcedon was accepted by Antioch [officially], Constantinople, Rome and Jerusalem. Now I know Jerusalem wasn't a Patriarchate yet, but it was a very important episcopal center, so I cannot simply ignore its authority. Chalcedon was rejected by Alexandrian See officially, and half of Antioch rejected it also. Reception of Chalcedon was very wide, ranging from Rome to Jerusalem, while rejection of it was mostly regional, but the rejection was overwhelming.

I would say that reason #2 is the main one, since all previous councils were considered ecumenical primarily because the large Sees [Rome, Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch] accepted them over time (not necessarily right away).

I'm always looking for the truth, and if the truth leads me to OO, so be it. Can someone give me reasons why these 2 points I presented don't really hold up? God bless!

Edit: for point #1, I don't mean that theology of Miaphysitism originates with Apollinarius, but the phrase itself (mia physis), but St Cyril interpreted it in an Orthodox way where humanity and divinity are distinct within one incarnate nature.

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u/OppositeCucumber2003 — 6 days ago

I'm an Orthodox, but I've never attended a Catholic Mass. I'm really curious what it's like to attend, but I don't really know what I should and shouldn't do. For example, should I cross myself in the Orthodox way (right to left), Catholic way (left to right) or not at all? What else should I know, since it's my first ever Mass? All I know is I shouldn't commune, since I'm an Orthodox.

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u/OppositeCucumber2003 — 10 days ago

I'm an Orthodox, but I've never attended a Catholic Mass. I asked my priest if it would be fine to go there, and he said I was free to go. All I know is I shouldn't commune there. My question would be, as an Orthodox, what should and shouldn't I do (e.x. do I cross my self in the Orthodox way or not at all, etc)?

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u/OppositeCucumber2003 — 10 days ago

I've come across a very interesting way to interpret this verse. The interpretation is as follows:

> "Christ's promise that gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church is the same promise God made to the nation of Israel, namely that "David shall never lack a man on his throne" and that there will always be offerings being offered at the temple. We can see from history that there were times where there wasn't a king of Israel and making temple sacrifices was impossible due to the temple having been destroyed. So the prophecies are still true, but not to be taken literally. Likewise, Matthew 16:18 doesn't mean Church will always exist, but that there will be times where the true Church will exist, then cease to exist, but ultimately, at the end, it will be standing."

How would you respond to this?

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u/OppositeCucumber2003 — 16 days ago

I've come across a very interesting way to interpret this verse. The interpretation is as follows:

> "Christ's promise that gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church is the same promise God made to the nation of Israel, namely that "David shall never lack a man on his throne" and that there will always be offerings being offered at the temple. We can see from history that there were times where there wasn't a king of Israel and making temple sacrifices was impossible due to the temple having been destroyed. So the prophecies are still true, but not to be taken literally. Likewise, Matthew 16:18 doesn't mean Church will always exist, but that there will be times where the true Church will exist, then cease to exist, but ultimately, at the end, it will be standing."

How would you respond to this?

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u/OppositeCucumber2003 — 16 days ago