u/OleksandrKyivskyi

What relationship did Sauron and Morgoth have?

Do you think the relationship between Sauron and Morgoth was personal or only political to gain more power? Were they roommates?

So I gathered the quotes from Silmarillion mentioning both of them (which are not many, unfortunately)

  1. Valaquenta

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  1. QUENTA SILMARILLION

OF THE COMING OF THE ELVES AND THE CAPTIVITY OF MELKOR

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  1. OF THE COMING OF MEN INTO THE WEST

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  1. OF THE RUIN OF BELERIAND AND THE FALL OF FINGOLFIN

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  1. OF BEREN AND LÚTHIEN

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(And I just want to butt in and say that interpretation that I saw in the fandom that Gothmog was the one responsible for going to wars and Sauron was only the sorcerer (werewolf breeder, deceiver, spy master etc) doesn't seem to match the text.)

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This one is interesting because 1) We don't see Melkor and Mairon actually interact anymore in the text (at least I haven't found) 2) These are just Luthien's words, and we don't have proof from the text whether Morgoth after this loss or in general tormented his Maiar.

(And additionally power scaling makes no sense, because before Sauron had successfully driven out the army of Orodreth from this exact tower. But it is topic for another discussion)

  1. Akallabeth

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  1. Of rings of power and the third age

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If I missed any, please let me know.

In conclusion, I think there is quite a lot of personal investment present. The most trusted servant, the "seduced" part, the "bonds", the assumed by Luthien fear of Melkor's scorn, the human sacrifice temple.

Do what you may with this information.

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u/OleksandrKyivskyi — 1 hour ago

If the Dagor Dagorath/the Last battle wouldn't happen, what would happen to Arda?

Would it just keep fading? Would it be remade anyway? Would there be find a way to heal world from Morgoth's evil eventually?

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u/OleksandrKyivskyi — 6 days ago