u/OkButterscotch6742

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The misuse of “plot hole” & “missed potential”

I despise how people have begun throwing the terms “plot hole” & “missed potential” at everything they perceive as “badly written” whenever someone asks them to provide any explanation or evidence for why they think this. It’s even worse when you have thousands of people willing to defend takes like this via the appeal to popularity fallacy (“well most of the fandom / most critics agree, therefore you can’t disprove this no matter how many analysis’s of the show you make!”)

I swear nowadays the term “plot hole” has also lost all meaning. When did “plot holes” go from meaning a genuine contradiction in a story’s logic or world-building, to “any unexplored (or completely fanon) plotline / lore detail I wanted to see more of” or “anything that wasn’t spoonfed to me / anything that WAS spoonfed to me, but all of us didn’t pay attention too at all”?

No, just because a show doesn’t have it’s characters constantly eat or drink every second onscreen, doesn’t mean they “don’t drink at all which is a major plot hole because how are they still alive if they aren’t eating / drinking anything!“ nor “a dropped plotline / missed lore potential that would’ve saved the writing” that should’ve happened in the middle of the main characters fighting the big bad guy while the main character’s girlfriend gets fucking stabbed through the chest”.

(there’s a ton of other examples for this, but Murder Drones has them drink in almost every episode, with clear implications they kept doing it offscreen in between episodes too. The discourse got so bad that the writer had to answer in a public interview when asked that yes- the cast drinks & eats offscreen. The show still gets a ton of hate for this because “this is a plot hole since we could’ve gotten a major plotline where they ran out of food b-but the writer hates us because he’s not giving us the fanfic plot we wanted!”)

In the end of episode 1, N says “I’d join you if the sun didn’t kill me!” & we see it burn solver hosts in episodes 4, 6 & 8. The show having vampire robots that get damaged in sunlight isn’t a “plot hole” for “not being explained enough”. They’re vampires. This is the most common trope.

No, the TADC cast conjuring things isn’t a “plot hole” because “it wasn’t actually explained / it came out of nowhere / but how did Jax & Kinger know how to make things, do they conjure everything from their mind can they only conjure existing assets Caine made? Why couldn’t Zooble conjure herself a new body? Why can’t the cast conjure NPCs or Caine to bring him back? All of this could’ve been a plotline. TADC had such missed potential, Goose is such a bad writer“. People just want the story to be like their fanfics & as an entirely different show.

Jax’s backstory with Ribbit not being fully revealed yet isn’t a “major plot hole” either. Maybe it could’ve been fully told to us earlier on in episodes 4 or 6. Maybe this & the whole “Jax & Ribbit being siblings” possibility (if them being siblings or former lovers doesn’t end up as canon) is “missed potential”, but it’s not a valid critique to say that Jax’s whole character or the show is “poorly written” just because it’s likely not gonna end up being canon.

Deku getting OFA doesn’t make MHA “filled with plot holes” nor “badly written“ because “Deku getting into UA while quirkless was missed potential“. Shigaraki, Dabi & Toga being saved & the manga having a whole other arc about their redemption until they become qualified heroes (or free civilians) could MAYBE be considered “missed potential”, but not “bad writing”.

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u/OkButterscotch6742 — 7 hours ago

Can someone check & help this calc my friend’s making?

My friend made this calc & is wondering if the first part of the calc they did was right (finding the speed), & (for the 2nd part of the calc) if the 1st method was right or the 2nd & 3rd method (for finding the perception speed).

In murder drones episode 5 from 11:52 - 11:54 (the full scene), solver-influenced manor V while climbing the top of Elliot manor straight up disappears when lightning strikes by the time the noise & flash happen.

First part of the calc - finding the speed of V:

Finding time:

V is moving, the lightning flash happens in 1 frame, & then V is gone.

24 fps: 1/24 = 0.04167 seconds or 41.67 milliseconds.

Finding distance:

Based on the scene, it looks like V moved for 8ft? But this is just a guess given that she was still on the roof but J, N & Tessa still couldn’t see her until they got distracted & V jumped down. I’ll use 5ft as well.

Edit: Someone did a pixel calc getting it to 7.970 something ft so this seems close enough.

Results (not counting the lightning) (least accurate result since this doesn’t count the lightning):

5ft / 0.04167 miliseconds = 81.81 (subsonic)

8ft / 0.04167 miliseconds = 130.9 (subsonic)

Results (thunder) (also the least likely accurate result since in the scene, V (visually & narratively speaking) specifically disappears during / after the flash).

Thunder travels at the speed of sound, which is approximately 343m/s (760 - 770mph) in the air (transonic).

Results (lightning):

The visible flash of a lightning strike travels at the speed of light which is 186,000 m/s or 670,600,000mph (SoL).

Solver influenced V should be slightly faster than this (SoL - FTL).

Second part of the calc - finding perception & reaction speeds:

METHOD 1:

On VSBW, the standard assumption of the distance between clouds that usually cause thunderstorms & the ground is 2000m. Based on the info here-

-the result would be 0.000006671 seconds, or 0.006671 milliseconds, or 6.671 microseconds, or (massively hypersonic perception speeds).

METHODS 2 & 3:

If we use 5ft (the distance V traveled), she would’ve had to react & move in 5.084e-9 seconds, or 5.084e-6 milliseconds, or 0.005084 microseconds, or 5.084 nanoseconds (relativistic+ perception speeds).

If we use 8ft (the distance V traveled) instead, she would’ve had to react & move in 8.134e-9 seconds, or 8.134e-6 milliseconds, or 0.008134 microseconds, or 8.134 nanoseconds (relativistic perception speeds).

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u/OkButterscotch6742 — 4 days ago

Pirate survives staff of explosive mana (A ReGect)

Verse: A ReGect

Feat occurs in “A ReGect Part 8: Magnet Fishing” from 4:52 - 5:15.

The pirate leader (forgot their name) survived this & Ze is relative to this pirate leader so I genuinely want to know where this scales.

It also completely destroys all the water around & under it with the context being that they were both on boats fishing.

u/OkButterscotch6742 — 18 days ago