u/Mental_Paramedic3697

My wife and I are both on Canadian work permits, not PR. We have a young child. We applied for my father's visit to Canada. He is retired, widower, living in UP India. He has a second son in another Indian state and a daughter in Australia.

Application 1 — Refused Oct 2025

  • 4-month visit, two specific events (festival + family occasion) + sightseeing
  • Refused: "The purpose of the applicant's visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details provided in the application"
  • Fair — 4 months was disproportionate

Application 2 — Refused Apr 24, 2026 What changed:

  • Cut to 21 days, day-by-day itinerary provided for every day
  • Cover and invitation letter directly addressing the first refusal
  • Documents: father's pension PPO + credit slips, 3 property registrations(including translation certificate for Hindi deeds), ECHS card, full identity docs | sponsor docs: employment letters, pay stubs, 2 years NOA
  • Financial: father's bank statements, SCSS, FD (more than ~CAD 10K savings + regular pension) | sponsor's: 6 months bank statements (combined liquid > CAD 50K)
  • Father visited his daughter in Australia in 2025 and returned to India on schedule (also provided in first application)
  • Proper letters of explanation for all document queries.

Purpose (as stated in cover letter): Family visit — first visit to Canada. Activities include local Toronto exploration (Little India, Distillery District), CN Tower, Harbourfront, day trip to Niagara Falls, Toronto Zoo, Toronto Islands.

Itinerary breakdown (21 days, day-by-day):

  • Jul 20: Arrival YYZ, transfer, rest
  • Jul 21: Rest — jet lag recovery (14-hr flight from India)
  • Jul 22: Neighbourhood walk, local orientation
  • Jul 23: Little India (Gerrard India Bazaar), Distillery District
  • Jul 24: Rest — hosts at work; morning walk in local park
  • Jul 25: CN Tower, Ripley's Aquarium, Harbourfront
  • Jul 26: Toronto Islands — ferry, outdoor walk, picnic
  • Jul 27: Rest — hosts at work; evening neighbourhood walk
  • Jul 28: High Park — nature trails, outdoor zoo
  • Jul 29: Local mall (hosts at work, senior-friendly, accessible)
  • Jul 30: Mount Pleasant Cemetery walk; evening with family
  • Jul 31: Rest — hosts prepare for Niagara day trip
  • Aug 1: Niagara Falls day trip (Horseshoe Falls, Niagara-on-the-Lake)
  • Aug 2: Toronto Zoo (full day, tram accessible)
  • Aug 3: Rest — recovery after two consecutive full-day outings
  • Aug 4: Morning park walk; afternoon rest (hosts at work)
  • Aug 5: Rest — hosts at work; evening family dinner
  • Aug 6: Toronto Eaton Centre, gift shopping for family in India
  • Aug 7: Departure preparation, final errands
  • Aug 8: Farewell dinner with family, final packing
  • Aug 9: Departure — Toronto Pearson (YYZ) → India

Rest days explained in cover letter: hosts work on weekdays, applicant is 71 and needs recovery after full-day outings.

Full ODN (Apr 24, 2026): exactly same as first application > "I have reviewed the application. The purpose of the applicant's visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details provided in the application. Weighing the factors in this application, I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay. For the reasons above, I have refused this application."

Nothing beyond this. No document flagged. No specific concern identified.

Father's ties to India: Regular defence pension + ~ more than CAD $10K savings. Ex-Servicemen healthcare proof non-transferable and India-only. Three registered properties + agricultural land. Second son and grandchildren in India (different state).

Questions:

  1. Does work permit sponsor (not PR) significantly hurt chances for this profile? Has anyone overcome this?
  2. Has anyone got approved after two 179(b) refusals for an elderly Indian parent? What specifically changed?
  3. Father is a widower — is this flagged consistently even with the above ties? How have people addressed it?
  4. Anything obvious missing from this profile?
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u/Mental_Paramedic3697 — 19 days ago