u/Latter_Archer3800

Hello! I wanted to get some feedback about this concept.

Those familiar with horary astrology are likely aware of the idea that planets in the sign of another planet's detriment or fall are normally interpreted as "disliking" that planet, regardless of where it's located in the chart, in the context of the question being asked. For example, Jupiter is in detriment and Venus is fallen in the sign of Virgo. Therefore, any planet located in Virgo is going to automatically disfavor Jupiter and especially Venus, simply by virtue of that planet's position in that sign, and regardless of any sect affinities or harmonious aspects that planet might be making to Venus and/or Jupiter.

Has this ever been applied the same way in natal astrology? Is there any historical precedent for doing so? I've mostly studied under Hellenistic astrologers, and the closest thing I can recall learning is mutual reception and to a lesser extent, single reception, but it's often seen more as a counterbalancing factor when two planets are in aversion or in hard aspect to one another. I've also studied modern astrology quite a bit but I don't recall this being a consideration, either.

To give another example, let's say a natal chart features Jupiter in Pisces, in an exact trine with Mercury in Cancer. In a horary context, Jupiter is very well-received by Mercury, since Mercury is located in the exaltation of Jupiter. However, Mercury is poorly received by Jupiter, because Jupiter is located in both the detriment and fall of Mercury. So, despite the harmonious trine aspect between the two planets, it's a one sided relationship, with Jupiter being the clear beneficiary of the energetic exchange. This implies that the accidental dignity of Mercury receiving a trine from a benefic planet is substantially diminished due to the signs involved.

Like I said, I don't remember this ever being a consideration in traditional natal astrology, at least the way I was taught to interpret aspects. In fact, it almost seems like the opposite would be true - because of Pisces' position relative to Cancer, Mercury is receiving the superior trine ray, which is normally seen as the more powerful aspect, while Jupiter receives the inferior trine from Mercury.

I know that horary is a very different branch of astrology with its own rules, and that there are certain traditional concepts that are simply not applied (sect consideration being the main one that immediately comes to mind). But given the considerable overlap between traditional natal astrology (particularly Medieval) and horary, I am curious as to where this specific concept stands. Thanks!

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u/Latter_Archer3800 — 7 days ago