Yes, I know "2 Cost" is possible with Welt scamming but not everyone has E4 welt, so here's a 4-Cost rotation without Welt, only 35 substats and a lot of overkill. 3 Cost without Welt is theoretically possible as well with extremely high subs, but I didn't want to use Xolze subs for this so here's this instead. The current lowest cost run done without Welt is 6 cost on live server, but Blade can single-handedly halve that cost just by himself, which is kind of crazy. It's pretty clear Ashveil is the biggest winner from him by far so far...

- Idy

Can be 10 cost if you optimize more

Hello, welcome to the "series" dedicated to analyzing the numerical performance of newly released IDs/EGOs.

Our focus at this time will be on The Middle Big Brother Heathcliff and Into the Sunset Rodion

Let’s start with Cliff

Bleed:

Total Pot ≈ 50 (CounterSpam: 42)

Total count ≈ 6

Burn:

Total Pot ≈ 43 (CounterSpam: 39)

Total count ≈ 2

Ricardocliff comes to solidify a status presence within the middle team by providing massive potency application for both status, making coin conditionals more consistent and allowing variations of the middle team (like zwei rodya) to shine even more.

Sadly this amazing performance is tied to a proper middle team as he loses a lot of application without S1 assist and the free S3-2, so Youcliff and KKCliff are still the best applicators on thei respective status.

Moving on to DPR

DPR stands for damage per rotation, which is a method of calculating an IDs performance based on 6 [or the first 6] turns of the game in which is ID is “forced” to go through all it’s skills.

Ricliff's raw damage performance (S2>S1>S2>S3>S1>S1)

38 + 24 + 38 + 27 + 25 + 25 ≈ 177

Ricliff's perfect damage performance (9x S1, 2x S2, 1x S3-2, 1x S3; all max conditionals):

513 + 174 + 150 + 252 ≈ 1089 (Max weight: 1415)

Ricliff's perfect counter damage performance (9x S1, 5x Counter, 1x S3-2; all max conditionals):

342 + 955 + 252 = 1549 (Max weight: 2360)

Ricliff's realistic envy damage performance (S2>S1-Counter>S1-Counter>S1-Counter>S3-2-S1>S1-Counter; Doesn't account the SP situation):

40 + 31 + 120 + 46 + 130 + 51 + 183 + 249 + 48 + 52 + 184 = 1134

Ricardo shocklingly isn't overwhelmingly stronger at full conds that one could'vet expected, being non-ironically on par with Middle Ishmael damage; However Ricardo stands out with his amazing weight capabilities and not just that but also amazing ramping performance (something middle ishmael struggles), providing more frontloaded damage even if his S3-2 only appears as early as turn 5 sadly.

Curiosity aside Ricardo damage is still overwhelmingly impressive just below the bleed nursefather but above the index (on realistic), however unlike index, ricardo massively suffers when it comes to personal performance, heavily relying on middle and envy for almost all of his conditionals and therefore having pretty weak generalist performance (still offers good to great clashing). Therefore if you're a new player don't feel pressured to chase him but be happy if you end up with him.

About his performance on bleed and burn not being covered its the same reasoning as the above, the lack of teamates makes him damage worse than his cliff peers and even with move in reg he's still a worse potency source than Youcliff for burn (which also benefits from move in).

Oi, get up! You've still got 11 deaths left in your!

Thanks to cliff middle is now solidified as a all arounder team capable of tackling almost any content, only missing now on Outis to solidify itself entirely with the tools her ID and EGOs offer ^(and be eternally stronger than poise)

The SP gen and stagger immunity allow the team to commit to its highest damaging source (Counter) without any regrets; Just spam it and you will win anything. (Wouldn't do that in MDE however, unless a gift makes the survivability for them better)

Get Ready, here comes Big Bro!

Cliffs sins albeit excessive are still greatly appreciated because of how they work; due to his wrath generation happening even on full envy hands it allows for more consistency on electric scream and less need to commit to weaker skill on the first turn for EGOs (however Outis might ask for a lust turn 1)

Looks more Luscious now, don't it?

In conclusion Ricardo Cliff is what perfect ID design is, empowering its team, addressing flaws and solidifying the best strat all in one go without unrechable conditionals to do so; Taking over after prince meursault as the "team revival ID".

Moving on to Rodya

Application: 3 (both status)

Corrosion: 2/2 (both status)

Damage: 23 (69 weight)

Corrosion: 72 (216 weight)

It's more than clear Rodya's awakening EGO role isn't one of damage or status, nor its damage typing could see some effectiveness in MDH, so lets place those aside.

Corrosion wise there's some appreciated damage on its weight but it requires setup usually not present, usable on blunt or lust fatal pecca fights but inconsistent to roll tails with

From clash rolls alone you can see her slight upgrade over what is cast on base clashing while also becoming a to pathos on clash power if conditionals are met.

Rodya also offers great healing and SP heal for the teams the EGO is designed for (burn and bleed), albeit niche and won't be seen as often due to the strenght of its teams a zayin with utility is always appreciated; Likely to be carried by >!Valencina !<the EGO also can see some use in tremor (arguably better than burn when it comes to wrath usage) for contexts of inconsistent nukes due to HP gates. Another great aspect for bleed is the lust resonance application for whenever it is needed but the counter can't be used. Its passive is sadly mediocre and won't be meaningful whatsoever.

In conclusion it is a nice EGO to have but won't shake up the meta like ricardo or anything due to being pretty balanced in regards to its SP healing and HP healing being something not meaningful in optimized environments. Own it for the value of changing sin affinities. Phenomenal EGO for new players due to its cheap cost, clashing and survivability.

Thank you for reading, and please check out my prior guides

Art

Break free from the shackles of feelscrafting, learn how to calculate DPR yourself

DPR for Dummies

Hello, welcome to the "series" dedicated to analyzing the numerical performance of newly released IDs/EGOs.

Our focus at this time will be on The Middle Big Brother Heathcliff and Into the Sunset Rodion

Let’s start with Cliff

Bleed:

Total Pot ≈ 50 (CounterSpam: 42)

Total count ≈ 6

Burn:

Total Pot ≈ 43 (CounterSpam: 39)

Total count ≈ 2

Ricardocliff comes to solidify a status presence within the middle team by providing massive potency application for both status, making coin conditionals more consistent and allowing variations of the middle team (like zwei rodya) to shine even more.

Sadly this amazing performance is tied to a proper middle team as he loses a lot of application without S1 assist and the free S3-2, so Youcliff and KKCliff are still the best applicators on thei respective status.

Moving on to DPR

DPR stands for damage per rotation, which is a method of calculating an IDs performance based on 6 [or the first 6] turns of the game in which is ID is “forced” to go through all it’s skills.

Ricliff's raw damage performance (S2>S1>S2>S3>S1>S1)

38 + 24 + 38 + 27 + 25 + 25 ≈ 177

Ricliff's perfect damage performance (9x S1, 2x S2, 1x S3-2, 1x S3; all max conditionals):

513 + 174 + 150 + 252 ≈ 1089 (Max weight: 1415)

Ricliff's perfect counter damage performance (9x S1, 5x Counter, 1x S3-2; all max conditionals):

342 + 955 + 252 = 1549 (Max weight: 2360)

Ricliff's realistic envy damage performance (S2>S1-Counter>S1-Counter>S1-Counter>S3-2-S1>S1-Counter; Doesn't account the SP situation):

40 + 31 + 120 + 46 + 130 + 51 + 183 + 249 + 48 + 52 + 184 = 1134

Ricardo shocklingly isn't overwhelmingly stronger at full conds that one could'vet expected, being non-ironically on par with Middle Ishmael damage; However Ricardo stands out with his amazing weight capabilities and not just that but also amazing ramping performance (something middle ishmael struggles), providing more frontloaded damage even if his S3-2 only appears as early as turn 5 sadly.

Curiosity aside Ricardo damage is still overwhelmingly impressive just below the bleed nursefather but above the index (on realistic), however unlike index, ricardo massively suffers when it comes to personal performance, heavily relying on middle and envy for almost all of his conditionals and therefore having pretty weak generalist performance (still offers good to great clashing). Therefore if you're a new player don't feel pressured to chase him but be happy if you end up with him.

About his performance on bleed and burn not being covered its the same reasoning as the above, the lack of teamates makes him damage worse than his cliff peers and even with move in reg he's still a worse potency source than Youcliff for burn (which also benefits from move in).

Oi, get up! You've still got 11 deaths left in your!

Thanks to cliff middle is now solidified as a all arounder team capable of tackling almost any content, only missing now on Outis to solidify itself entirely with the tools her ID and EGOs offer ^(and be eternally stronger than poise)

The SP gen and stagger immunity allow the team to commit to its highest damaging source (Counter) without any regrets; Just spam it and you will win anything. (Wouldn't do that in MDE however, unless a gift makes the survivability for them better)

Get Ready, here comes Big Bro!

Cliffs sins albeit excessive are still greatly appreciated because of how they work; due to his wrath generation happening even on full envy hands it allows for more consistency on electric scream and less need to commit to weaker skill on the first turn for EGOs (however Outis might ask for a lust turn 1)

Looks more Luscious now, don't it?

In conclusion Ricardo Cliff is what perfect ID design is, empowering its team, addressing flaws and solidifying the best strat all in one go without unrechable conditionals to do so; Taking over after prince meursault as the "team revival ID".

Moving on to Rodya

Application: 3 (both status)

Damage: 23 (69 weight)

It's more than clear Rodya's EGO role isn't one of damage or status so lets place those aside.

From rolls alone you can see her slight upgrade over what is cast on base clashing while also becoming a to pathos on clash power if conditionals are met.

Rodya also offers great healing and SP heal for the teams the EGO is designed for (burn and bleed), albeit niche and won't be seen as often due to the strenght of its teams a zayin with utility is always appreciated; Likely to be carried by >!Valencina !<the EGO also can see some use in tremor (arguably better than burn when it comes to wrath usage) for contexts of inconsistent nukes due to HP gates. Another great aspect for bleed is the lust resonance application for whenever it is needed but the counter can't be used. Its passive is sadly mediocre and won't be meaningful whatsoever.

In conclusion it is a nice EGO to have but won't shake up the meta like ricardo or anything due to being pretty balanced in regards to its SP healing and HP healing being something not meaningful in optimized environments. Own it for the value of changing sin affinities. Phenomenal EGO for new players due to its cheap cost, clashing and survivability.

Thank you for reading, and please check out my prior guides

Art

Break free from the shackles of feelscrafting, learn how to calculate DPR yourself

DPR for Dummies

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