u/HistorianPatriot1945

How do you navigate a capitalist society?

Society is very much capitalist. Nearly everything in the world is produced by capitalism and state-owned institutions still tend to be conservative in some way. For a socialist, how do you navigate life while knowing your smartphone was made by capitalist Labour, or vote in elections while knowing that most parties are capitalist, or buy food from commercial food chains without going against your own ethics? This especially applies to Western Socialists, the vast majority of products in the west have been created by capitalism, not socialism.

How do you justify this?

How do you somehow live your life avoiding these things without depriving yourself?

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 2 days ago

Opinion on military youth?

As someone who has once been in the ACF, what do socialists think of militarised youth groups? The UK has five militaru-themed youth groups, Army Cadets (ACF), Royal Air Force Air Cadets (RAFAC), Sea Cadet Corps (SCC), Combined Cadet Force (CCF) amd Volunteer Cadets. The first 3 are self-explanatory, the CCF is just military stiff as a while for school children and the Volunteer Cadets are also the navy like the SCC. They don't technically claim to be a military pipeline, but what was that founded as. Do socialists (specifically liberterian socialists) believe militarised youth organisations are compatible with the liberation from Capitalism and State? Asking because I want to know if a socialist society would keep these things, since I'm a defender of them.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 4 days ago

Socialists, what do you think of the state?

As I am aware, socialists have been pretty divided on the role of the state. The historically powerful form of socialism, state socialism (where the government centralises planning around itself, among other things) is usually what westerners think of when they hear the word socialism (The USSR followed this branch), but there's a branch of socialism called Liberterian Socialism, which rejects state control, vanguard parties, and hierarchical bureaucracies, instead advocating for workplace self-rule and grassroots democracy (prominent examples being Revolutionary Catalonia and the Free territory of Ukraine). Which one do you (the socialists in this sub) lean to?

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 5 days ago

Children don't deserve free milk.

Children over the age of seven don't deserve free milk from school because the money is better spent on stuff such as school buildings. Under-sevens should ideally still receive free school milk, and so would kids in special schools and kids with special needs, but we should take away all the milk from school-aged children. You aren't a true capitalist if you believe the state should give children milk in school, it is a waste of money to take care of children's greed for milk.

(No, this isn't serious, if you're British, you likely know)

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 5 days ago

If you were to govern the opposite society, how would you govern it without turning it into your actual ideology?

As the title suggests, capitalist's if you had to govern a socialist society (lets call it Socialburg) how would you govern it, socialists, if you had to govern a capitalist society (lets call it Capville) how would you govern it? The logical answer would be to switch it to the side that you actually support, but let's say you can't do that because your... head will explode, and your entire memory will be erased from society while your soul gets eleported in some state of limbo where you have to watch the Bee movie on repeat on repeat for eternity.

Personally, I'd keep the society socialist just because socialism > communism, and then concentrate employments into multiple state-owned enterprises that function just independently, and I'd encourage fractionalism in the ruling party so it functions like a multi-party system. In other words, I'd use the system to have a socialist state with a Liberal culture. I'd probably govern as a benevolent but cutthroat dictator to keep opposition to myself down

Bonus question: How would you handle diplomatic relations with the other side?

Personally, I'd increase military spending around them.

Other Bonus Question: If you do think you would fail, how would you try to escape having to watch the Bee movie for eternity?

I'd probably just pray that I eventually commit the sin of being a Bee movie fan.

4th question: Am I the only Thatcherite in this sub? I don't mean a British Reaganite, I mean an actual Thatcherite.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 5 days ago

Do any of you believe in obscure forms of socialism?

Do any of you believe in forms of socialism that aren't widespread or iconic?

If so, what kind? And why do you support it? I'd much like to know. Do any of them precede Marxism and Anarchism? If you don't support them, could you at least tell me any obscure forms of socialism? Can you give me any counter-arguments to them as well? And why is it not as famous as "mainstream" socialism? I'd also like a history of how it evolved and their relationship with Marxism and Anarchism.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 6 days ago

Pick one:

Blue (West Berlin): Live in a society where you can work hard for wealth and help others under your own free will instead of filtering it through a corrupt middleman called the government and support your family while having multiple employment options in single fields and having lots of choices when picking out products to purchase

Red (East Berlin): Let a bunch of commissars force everyone to have equal finance, stopping you from gaining more money while they establish a dictatorship to keep freedom down as your neighbours on the other side.

Edit: Please don't take this seriously, I'm not actually being genuine, I just wanted to see what shitpostong was like since I'm new to Reddit and didn't mind doing it through politics. These seriously aren't my reasons for being capitalist.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 7 days ago

What's the difference between socialism and communism

As a capitalist, I've always wanted to know the difference. I grew up thinking they were synonyms, then I thought that socialism was statist communism, but the British education system says it's a middle ground that believes in welfare, but that's what I consider social democracy.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 7 days ago