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If you were PC before, what made you change to PL and why?

For PC who were originally PL, why did you change your mind, and what changed your mind?

This probably isn’t the sub-Reddit to say this question/statement but I’m a bit worried how the pro-life people will react.

Anyways! I see articles that say “abortion is NEVER medically necessary“ They seem to commonly give examples of miscarriages and an ectopic pregnancy as an example.

They define abortion as “The intentional killing of the unborn child” or fetus, or embryo, or whatever you want to call it.

So one, I don’t know if pro-choice actually considers a miscarriage as an abortion? Sometimes it’s called a spontaneous abortion, but I at least don’t consider a miscarriage as an abortion since the woman didn’t intentionally kill the thing.

Two, they give an ectopic pregnancy as an example. Let’s say the fertilized egg implanted into the fallopian tube. We got to remove that embryo before it becomes to big and kills the woman. A procedure to remove the embryo is by removing the entire fallopian tube. They say that because the embryo dying is a side effect of removing the fallopian tube, then that means it wasn’t intentionally killed. But like, yes, the thing was intentionally killed in order to save the woman’s life 😭. It wasn’t like the woman got some other procedure unrelated to the pregnancy and the embryo died. The embryo dying/being removed was kind of the point.
There‘s also another procedure where you don‘t remove the fallopian tube, but instead you cut into it and manually remove the embryo. Leaving the fallopian tube intact, so no, the fallopian tube being removed isn’t what saved the woman’s life. It’s the removal of the embryo which will kill it. Since the woman will know it will kill the embryo, that means she intentionally killed it.
It’s also like a circular argument where in order to save the woman‘s life you kill the embryo, but killing the embryo saves the woman’s life. Maybe that doesn’t make sense, but I’ve just been thinking of it like that 😭

I also read an article from the AAPLOG. Which let me tell you, I have never been so genuinely mad at an article before 😭! It was one where it had a title like “Myths and Facts about abortion!” Almost all of their sources that proved their points were from themselves. The ones that weren’t from themselves were from other pro-life groups. They just say stuff that is just really frustrating, particularly the “abortion is NEVERRR medically necessary!!!” It’s also just dangerous to say stuff like that.

I’ve also heard of something where “THOUSANDS of professionals say abortions are never medically necessary!“ When millions of other professionals disagree.

ALSO. When pro-life groups define abortion, I feel like they change the definition. My definition would be “The intentional ending of the pregnancy” (Which, yes, means the embryo or fetus is killed usually) while there’s would be “The intentional killing of the unborn child” Which I feel like I sound a bit crazy because both those definitions are practically the same. But it seems they change the word “intentionally” to be hyper specific?

I’ll give an example.

Definition of murder = The wrongful killing of a human being

Then I change ”killing” to only = the ending of the human life in self defense

Then say all murder is ok 😭

I DON’T KNOW IF I’M EXPLAINING THIS RIGHT. I kinda feel a bit crazy, but I just don’t really have the right words to describe this stuff I guess 😭?

What are your thoughts pro-choice community?