
u/GrapeTickler

Wow Anisa did it quicker than I thought. Brutal. (Parody)
wtf is going on with Ethan’s hair? It’s even worse than we thought
Mehdi Hasan retweets Hasan’s MTG take where he calls MTG an “unlikely ally”
As Hasan blames his critics of racism, let’s view his opinions on other second generation Americans
EDIT:
I messed up the unemployment number a lot. The better comparison would be against 14% so they are only ~2x more unemployed not ~6x. I made the classic mistake of misunderstanding employment data. If you look at men over 30 it’s more like 14%. I stand by the virginity stats, though.
Unemployment
* 27% of Hasan's audience is unemployed vs. 4.2% in the US. They are ~6x more likely to be unemployed than a random person. (See edit)
* 41% are unemployed or make less than minimum wage
Virgins
* The amount of people that are male virgins in US/Europe above 30 is estimated to be 1-3%.
* 7k+ people in Hasan's poll said they were 30+. 62-67% male. So about 4,340-4,460 we can assume were men.
* If you adjust for age distributions with regard to virginity rates, then statistically the estimated 30 year old virgin rate in his audience is at least 11% but could be up to 24%
So, that means Hasan fans that are men over 30 are anywhere from 4x to 20x more likely to be virgins than normal people. The mid-estimate would be 7-9x
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More nerdy calculation:
Known quantities
Let:
- V = 0.24 (overall virgin rate)
- A= 0.50 (30+ share)
- M= 0.62–0.67 (male share)
We want: P(Virgin | Male, 30+)
This requires a 3-way joint distribution (age × gender × virginity), which we don’t directly observe, so we bound and model it.
Absolute mathematical bounds (no assumptions)
Step 1: Size of subgroup
Step 2: Virgin count constraint
Total virgins = 3,360
Step 3: Extreme allocations
Theoretical max: ~36%+
Upper bound (max possible rate)
Put all virgins into men 30+
Max rate = 3360 / men 30+ population
Theoretical max: ~36%+ (realistically capped by subgroup size)
Lower bound (min possible rate)
Put all virgins outside men 30+:
Min rate = 0%
Constrained realistic models
We now impose empirical structure:
- Virginity declines with age
- Men have higher late
- age virginity than women
- Younger groups carry a disproportionate share of virginsVirginity independent of age & gender
Model A: The virginity rate is the same across ages
P(V | M,30+)= P(V)= 24%
Model B: Moderate age gradient
- U18: 70%
- 18–21: 45%
- 22–25: 30%
- 26–29: 20%
30+ ≈ 15-19%
Model C: Strong age gradient (most conservative)
Steeper decline:
- U18: 80%
- 18–21: 55%
- 22–25: 40%
- 26–29: 25%
30+ ≈ 9–12%
Converting to men 30+ specifically
Men tend to have higher late-age virginity rates, so:
- Model A: ~24% (upper realistic bound)
- Model B: ~15-19%
- Model C: ~9-12%
Most defensible interval
- ~11% -> 19% for men 30+
Full range
- ~9% -> 24% (depending on what assumptions you hold)
- Even the lowest plausible estimate (~9-12%) is:
- ~3-5× higher than general population (~1-3%)
- Mid-range (~15–19%) implies:
- ~5-10× higher
- Upper bound (~24%) implies:
- ~10×+ higher