Palestine from a perspective of an Israeli
First of all, Lets just preface by saying this is my point of view. To debate please provide verifiable information from a trusted source trusted by both sides. Now, lets debunk all the rumors circulating about Israelis.
- Quotes like "Kill all Arabs"
- The fact that Israel commit war crimes (partly true)
- HAMAS is not an army
- How antisemitism blocks most people's views from seeing what is really going on
- Zionism - What Do You Mean By That Word?
- Palestine is already "free", they are not oppressed by Israel
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>2) Israel KINDA commits war crimes, but in 2 ways:
People who try to and sometimes succeed in getting into Gaza as part of the army and shooting civilians because of the hate of Arabs (most times a person whose friend/family member got killed by an Arab terrorist) and shoot civilians with a "They kill us - We'll kill them" mentality. Also, HAMAS on purpose stations has their bases and weapon depots under/in civilian residences/hospitals/schools, so Israel has no choice. Israel has done something that most militaries never do and actually WARN civilians about strikes and operations and their locations. The fact that they die - that's the civilians' responsibility. They've been warned. Some officers in the IDF literally committed suicide because they let civilians die. They do everything to make sure civilians make it out alive.
>3) HAMAS is not an army, they don't have any uniform, they commit war crimes on a regular basis, they hide behind civilians, their actions have no strategic aim/meaning other than to kill Israelis/Jews, meaning it can/is/should be considered murder. Some people say that they "operate". They are not an army and/or defense force, they are a terror organization, and they are criminals and nothing else. They actually uploaded the atrocities they did on 7.10 online, if anyone wants confirmation.
>4) The sad truth is, some Arabs who support Palestine/HAMAS have a lot of influence, therefore Jewish deaths and terror acts are downplayed as something that should happen and is an everyday norm, while THE SMALLEST CRIME committed against an Arab is acted out as a massive war crime. Also, the influx of Arab fake posts/AI images like these: https://www.reddit.com/r/GetNoted/comments/1ssv2h0/never_mind_its_yemen_so_no_one_cares/ really make the situation even worse.
>5) Zionism literally means anyone who believes (and rightly so!) that we have the right to a Jewish nation (a. k. a. Israel), which already has been established and is in the U.N. Therefore I must ask: what do you mean by the word "Zionist"? We have a right to a country as much as the U.S. We have the land legally, and Palestine was never an official country, even now it isn't. "Palestine" was originally a term used by the British Mandate to describe the region. Therefore, the land is ours, and whatever claims to the land that the Palestinians lay are meaningless. They don't have a right to it.
>6) Finally, Palestine is not at all oppressed by Israel. Palestinians attack us periodically, so we have to defend ourselves. They are oppressed by HAMAS, which stage the bodies to LOOK as if they were killed by Israel. Accidents happen, though, but the IDF are not monsters. HAMAS attacked our country, kidnapped hundreds, and tortured, killed, and raped lots more (including children). To add more, we had plans for 2 nations, and we approached them multiple times for suggestions of peace and coexisting. They declined. Their only purpose for Israel not to exist, with slogans saying so ("From the river to the sea, Palestine is Arab").
In conclusion, those are my points. As I said, please provide evidence for debating, and please, no toxicity. Even though this looks like it, THIS IS NOT AI. Please don't ban me for AI posting, since all I'm using is formal language.
EDIT: ok. i researched more and i now agree that they dont have citizenship and passports. however. i still stand by the no oppression thing. i have a question. where do you get your info? from what i saw, you havent provided any sources, so i must ask. and, do you realize that any news outlet (especially al-jazeera) is bending things?
Anyways, i have a debate here that is one of my primary sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yUa0Z0LA80&t=4211s