u/Female_Not_Femboy

In Western data sets, like in the U.S. and UK, the most common body shape in cis women (regardless of race) is the rectangle body shape (46%), compared to the pear body shape (20%), apple body shape (14%), inverted triangle (12%) and hourglass (8%).

Sources: https://www.mmu.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/story/mmu-research-reveals-clothes-sizing-confusion

https://www.discoverfashions.com/blog/all-body-shapes

The reason trans women start off as "bricky" is because testosterone increases muscle mass in the core and obliques (sides of the abdomen) giving that straight up and down shape, even in cis men with a low body fat percentage. 5-10 years on estrogen will fix the muscle mass issue and eating more will help with estrogenised fat distribution.

Obviously, cis female rectangle bodies don't look the same as cis male rectangle bodies because their waists are still defined, they're just not "snatched" like an hourglass.

I'll leave a drawing I made in the replies to demonstrate what I mean. ⤵️

Edit: Your results may vary. Rectangle bodies have high to moderate WHRs from the bone structure itself, which is why rectangle bodies don't become hourglasses with less body fat. However, the waist can become slightly tapered with weight loss and muscle mass reduction. :D

Most of us here agree with transmedicalists that sex incongruence/dysphoria is a requirement of, or rather is transness.

But, many transmedicalists also believe that in order to be Le Trutrans, one must be formally diagnosed as such, that transsex enbies don't exist and that access to sex change care should be gatekept from greedy little faketranses.

From what I've read, the consensus here is that transsex people shouldn't have to jump through hoops and hurdles in order to receive the care that we need. Like, transness needs to be somewhat medicalised so that our dysphoria is taken seriously and so we can receive sex change care, especially government funded care, but not enough to where we, as people, are medicalised because then we get thrown into mental health facilities and shit.

Basically, what I'm asking is, if cissex enbies get the "tucute" label and trutrans gatekeepers get the label "transmed/truscum" label, what's our label? Like, do these values just fall under "trans liberation"?

Okay, I just want to preface this post by saying that it's mostly a vent. Yeah, okay, cool.

I remember going to a trans support group early in my transition and while there were some transsex people there, we were greatly outnumbered by enbies that were not medically transitioning or even socially transitioning; basically just spicy cis people.

And, oh my god, the pronoun circle was so fucking humiliating when almost every single "trans" person was using neopronouns. Like, was my sex incongruence a joke to these people?

It feels like trans identity is the only identity that anyone is allowed to adopt. Black people have black identities because they're black and autistic people have autistic identities because we're autistic, so why can't the same rules apply to transsex people? I know, I'm preaching to the choir here, but it's a vent. I'm venting.

Anyway, this is the closest I've ever felt to having a trans culture; from the sexual dimorphism posts to the hon/dood art, this subreddit feels like home. :)

Well, second to my actual home, but you know what I mean. :P

My default emotion is happiness, especially when I realise my body is female, but then I remember that I'm only female because of modern medicine. If I lived in any other time period, I'd just be some third-sex freak.

And, I know that this is the fault of cissex people not understanding that biological sex is a constellation of traits, but if I went missing pre-troon, the police would be looking for a little boy or teenage boy and my picture would be aged up to a grown man instead of a woman. If my body was found at a crime scene, biopsies would show I had XY chromosomes *and* worst of all, the SRY gene.

If I had ever gone to prison, pre-orchi, and wasn't allowed my estrogen, I would've aged like a man. And, if I was ever raped by a cis woman, pre-orchi, my male gametes would fertilise her female gametes and I'd have to deal with the fact that I brought a child into the world that I didn't want nor consent to creating in the first place, that I procreated in a male way and that I'd be forced to pay child support.

Cis women just get to be female. They got to be born with vulvas and ovaries, be raised as girls, go through the correct puberty, etc. They didn't have to tell anyone they were female, it was understood from day one. There was no transition, they just... are.

God, I hate being a tranny sometimes. 🥲💔