Anyway watch Kamen Rider Geats(and maybe Ex-Aid) and play Fate Extra cowards.
But yeah very good review, only things I disagree with him on is the pre analysis being underwhelming(Which is a fair opinion to have but I still enjoy them well enough and I think they do a serviceable job) and Despicable Minds being a good track.
No Death Battle Community, just because Grumind fell below expectations that does not mean you should be paranoid about every highly anticipated episode being good or not.
Or are we just gonna ignore the existence of: Bowsegg, Billcord, Colex(aside from the analysis), SauronKing, Kylemon(my bad forgot that apparenrly that’s a bad episode now) AshYugi, TomWile(this too), etc
Death Battle has SO MANY anime series that haven’t been on the show yet(or they HAVE been on but it’s just been a hot minute) I highly doubt people would be complaining AS much about anime being used if they just SPICED IT UP.
For starters, people have talked about how Death Battle say they use characters “at their best,” but then they go onto say Death Battle used anti feats for Megamind to justify why he supposedly wouldnt use certain equipment effectively, their example for why he wouldn’t abuse the Dehydration Gun or similar tech basically comes down to “well he doesn’t always do it,”
That is not what they said.
Let me elaborate.
So what i mean isn’t stats, I actually disagree where they put Megamind speed wise, it’s the whole “megamind wouldn’t use certain equipment effectively”
When the show says “putting characters ar their best” they mean they are given their best stats and equipment.
That has nothing to do with personality.
Let me quote a black box from the episode.
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Popup: A Death Battle assumes each combatant has winning intent, so Megamind's reluctance to use his deadlier weaponry is negligible on its own. However, his continued laxness versus Gru's consistent successes suggests Gru is more practical.
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THEY OUTRIGHT SAID, that Megamind’s reluctance to use weaponry doesn’t matter on its own, but his consistent laxness to use it is more consistently to how he’s portrayed.
Megamind is(unfortunately thanks to the show) portrayed more consistently as someone who doesn’t use his instant win button right away.
Death Battle putting characters at their best does not mean “ignoring characters flaws/weaknesses” Megamind DOES have weaknesses:
-He’s a bit overly boastful
-He’s sometimes cocky
-He needs time to plan things out
Etc
Here let me quote something else they said
Wiz: Both Gru and Megamind have their share of less-than-genius moments and bad luck, but even in the face of things gone wrong, Gru tends to... fail upwards, still ultimately completing his missions, unlike Megamind, who tends to fail
much harder before he learns how to succeed.
They did not “give Megamind an anti feat” they judged how he acts most consistently in his.
Think about it, even in the original movie he:
-Doesn’t even consider using his De-Gun on Tighten himself. There’s no evidence to suggest he’s immune to it so why doesn’t he use it?
-Roxanne outright has to REMIND HIM where the de fuser gun is.
Etc.
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“Wiz: Who also has a bad habit of not using his weapon effectively, like never using the De-Gun against the Doom Syndicate, either because he can get easily flustered, or he just loves showing off. So, it's more likely Gru could succeed in a "whoever shoots first wins" quick-draw situation with their arsenals.”
They never said megamind isn’t likely to use it EVER it’s just that Gru is more likely to go for his one shot options first.
Think about it, what is the FIRST thing Gru tries in almost every encounter with a new threat.
Freeze Ray.
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Anyway disagree with the result all you want but I wanted to clear up a common misconception I’ve seen regarding the whole “death battle takes characters at their peak” thing.
Disagree with the scaling(I outright do too) but the “taking characters at their peak” thing does not mean “ignoring character flaws and personality traits.”
……I’m just sad man.
Okay so first off the positives.
The pre analysis for both were solid, they kinda breezed over a few things but I’m willing to forgive that cause they were probably skirting around peacocks BS.
The fight had solid moments:
-Thestart of the fight(the midair battle to the crash landing) was really fun.
-The death was really funny and in character.
-The evo refrence and De-Bunk setting were funny Easter eggs
-Gru, the minions, minion and megamind’s voice were all honestly very good and the characterization for all were spot on
-the brain bot construct looked stunning.
-The banter was great
The fight absolutely has its moments but overall it feels lacking, like something is missing. Ya know that feeling when you forget something and you’re trying to remember it but you can’t for the life of you? That’s what it feels like watching this battle.
And I fucking hate to say that cause I was SO excited for this episode.
Look, I get it, they had to custom make a lot of things. I truly understand that. I wanna emphasize that.
But why didn’t you just wait to do this battle until later? No one was forcing you to put it out if it wasn’t ready! Take all the time you need! Delay it to 2027 if you need to!
Because a Gru vs Megamind fight without: Minion doing anything, no disguise watch shenigans, no Titan Suit, no minion vs minions, no shrink and dehydration gun clash, etc, feels hollow.
Abilities aren’t even traded? They just throw attacks out and neither bounce off each others arsenal in any interesting ways.
And Despicable Minds, while it’s a great track name…Low-key this might be my least favorite track in the kickstarter era.
Granted I recognize music taste is subjective.
But the sounds, it has the stop and start of tracks like Forever Terror Night, the grating rave part.
I also think my ears just don’t like the track since it hurts my ears to listen to.
And the conclusion I-look, while I was rooting for Megamind I personally had gru winning, and while I agree with the verdict for the most part, the speed they gave Megamind and them saying Gru can tank the death laser is where I have issues.
The MINIONS could absolutely tank the Death Ray but Gru himself? Nah.
And no, im not saying “I bet the team didn’t even watch Megamind Rules!” Imma be honest, I’ve seen this go around a lot, and it’s a baffling thing to see.
It’s one thing to disagree with the results or how the team came to their conclusion, but accusing the team of lying about their research is another.
Y’all need to stop throwing baseless claims around. By all means disagree with the verdict!
But accusing the team of not researching something without any evidence is very scummy.
“But they missed something from x material! Clearly the didn’t research it!”
OR and hear me out, they had a different opinion on how they scale a feat compared to you.
Vsdebating is subjective at the end of the day.
Again, by all means disagree with the team’s conclusion, but accusing the team of lying about their research process is drawing the line, especially without any evidence aside from “they didn’t scale a feat the exact same way I did” and “they didn’t verbally mention every single thing in the analysis”
Overall, it really does suck but I have to give Grumind a 6.3/10.
It’s better than BakuReze imo at least because, while both had comparable analysis, at least I felt something watching GruMind(occasionally that something was joy!) but watching BakuReze I just didn’t feel anything.
No hate to the animators, but I do wish this was given more time in the oven.
Next time is exciting tho! LETS GO!! DENJI AND YUJI MY GOATS!!!
Ridley vs Taniks(Metroid vs Destiny)
DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/nuzzap33/art/Final-Strife-Ridley-vs-Taniks-Fight-1317246898
Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V2xW8s_eFm4mczb9WVVhlbqxbjt4ycdr4PkINBpSel4/edit?usp=drivesdk
It also unintentionally insults the DB crew by implying they’re thin-skinned people who would consider quitting at any sort of noticeable pushback.
Like Luis has been on the team since Season 3 in a much meaner era of the internet, I don’t think he’s going to quit because some randos online think this one specific model looks weird.
Be mature adults and stop being defensive over anything that isn’t complete and utter love for a product.
Obviously I can’t stop everyone from being defensive, but this has become a SERIOUS issue lately ever since DA left.
To those who used DA leaving as a means of winning an argument or deflecting geninue constructive criticism? You might THINK you’re trying to prevent another DA from happening but what you’re actually causing is the opposite extreme. Creating a space where people don’t feel welcome to express their opinions without being harassed.
So cut it out.
That’s all I have left to say on the topic.
Luna, out.
Pretending everything is perfect doesn’t help any creator. In fact it does the opposite.
It prevents creators/writers/artists from learning and improving.
Being a bunch of “yes men” doesn’t help anyone.
There is NOTHING wrong with pointing out flaws or stuff you don’t like in a product, and that applies to ANY media! Not just Death Battle.
Basically, y’all need to let people critique the work Death Battle puts out, as long as they’re respectful about it then it’s all okay!
And it’s EQUALLY okay to disagree with the criticisms.
But don’t enforce this stigma that criticism shouldn’t be welcome in this community.