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Natasha Heath’s Mother’s Day post
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Natasha Heath’s Mother’s Day post

I love her mentioning the sanctity of motherhood. How could any sensible person, a mother look at this video and see porn?

I wonder what Blake lively and Ryan Reynolds are watching at home. Jenny slate is an idiot.

Happy Mother’s Day.

ETA: The post on Natasha’s Instagram is not a picture, but a video. I only took a screenshot so I could share here.

u/Fantastic-Prize-4669 — 5 days ago
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👺👹🚨💀 Notactuallygolden - The Real Problem With §47.1: Why California’s Untested §47.1 Law Is So Complicated and Why §47.1 Was Always Separate From the Main Trial

⬇️ Relevant Content:

🥊 Blake Lively files Motion for Attorney Fees and Punitive Damages under CA Civil Code section 47.1

👺👹🚨💀 Notactuallygolden - The Real Problem With §47.1: Why California’s Untested §47.1 Law Is So Complicated and Why §47.1 Was Always Separate From the Main Trial

🤺🫯🥊 Little Girl Attorney - The Legal Chaos Around §47.1: Blake Lively’s Lawsuit Is Officially Dismissed, But the §47.1 Battle Is Just Beginning

🧠👀🐉 Little Girl Attorney - California §47.1 Explained: Why Lively’s Attorney Fees Fight Isn’t Going Away (Yet) and Is Still Hanging Over the Case

🧠Little Girl Attorney - Wayfarer Opposes Lively’s §47.1 Fees Motion — Malice Standard, Connection and a Chaotic Law

🔥 Notactuallygolden - Wayfarer’s §47.1 Opposition Goes All In — Framing Lively’s Claims as Malicious, Risky, and Constitutionally Flawed

🧠 Lawyeredup1 - Lively v. Wayfarer Studios LLC Section 47.1 Motion: Serious Issues

⁉️💥🤯💣 Notactuallygolden - A Last-Ditch Attempt: Breaks Down the Explosive Settlement Dispute and The 47.1 Carve-Out Is Crazy

🧠Notactuallygolden - Redacted 47.1 Motion Emerges — A Mysterious Declaration, But Likely Just Background Noise

🧐 Little Girl Attorney - Lively’s 47.1 Reply Brief: One Word Only - Confusing

⚖️ NAG Breaks Down California’s Uncharted §47.1 Law (00:00–01:03)

  • Nobody truly knows how California Code §47.1 works yet because:
    • It has never been fully tested in court.
    • There is no controlling precedent interpreting it.
  • Everything lawyers are doing right now is essentially:
    • statutory construction,
    • interpretation,
    • and educated guesswork.
  • She explains this is a good example of how statutes are often written in a confusing, layered way that lawyers must decode section by section.

📜 Section A: Protected Communications & Privilege (01:03–02:03)

  • NAG explains that the first core part of §47.1 creates a protected category of speech.
  • The statute says:
    • certain communications made without malice about harassment or discrimination allegations become “privileged.”
  • Meaning:
    • those communications are shielded from liability and lawsuits.
  • Key legal concepts buried inside the statute:
    • “communication”
    • “malice”
    • “regarding”
    • “reasonable basis”
  • Central takeaway:
    • The law is designed to immunize certain harassment-related complaints from defamation liability.

🧩 Why Section C Matters More Than People Realize (02:03–03:52)

  • NAG says the real explanatory language is buried in Section C, not the opening section.
  • Section C clarifies:
    • a person does not need to formally file with the CRD or EEOC for protections to apply.
  • Instead:
    • If they had a reasonable basis to complain,
    • The communication may still qualify as privileged speech.
  • She frames this as:
    • The statute defines what kinds of speech get protected status.
  • NAG emphasizes:
    • statutes rarely cleanly separate “rights” and “defenses.”
    • Lawyers must infer how sections interact with each other.

⚙️ Section B: Enforcement & Monetary Consequences (03:52–05:11)

  • NAG explains that Section B functions as the enforcement mechanism.
  • Once a communication is deemed privileged:
    • A person sued for defamation over that communication may recover damages.
  • This includes:
    • attorneys’ fees
    • costs
    • and potentially treble damages.
  • Important distinction:
    • The statute itself doesn’t create the speech
    • It creates consequences for suing over protected speech.

🏛️ Why §47.1 Was Always Going to Survive Trial (05:11–06:59)

  • NAG explains what the Wayfarer defendants mean when they say:
    • the §47.1 issue would have existed no matter what happened at trial.
  • Why?
    • Because Blake Lively already prevailed on the dismissal of the defamation claims against her.
  • That dismissal happened separately from:
    • her retaliation claims,
    • contract claims,
    • or FEHA claims.
  • So regardless of whether she later won or lost trial:
    • she would still remain a “prevailing defendant” on the defamation portion.

⚠️ The Settlement Created New Problems for §47.1 (07:01–08:11)

  • NAG says the settlement complicates enforcement because:
    • major unresolved factual issues were never decided by a jury.
  • Key unresolved questions include:
    • Did Lively have a “reasonable basis” for her complaints?
    • Were her communications made “without malice”?
  • Those issues were potentially going to be litigated at trial.
  • But because the case settled:
    • there is now no factual verdict resolving them.

💰 Damages Are Another Major Weak Spot (08:11–09:12)

  • NAG highlights another complication:
    • §47.1 allows damages tied specifically to harm caused by the defamation lawsuit itself.
  • But:
    • no factual record cleanly separates:
      • harm caused by the alleged smear campaign,
      • harm caused by media coverage,
      • harm caused specifically by the defamation filing.
  • Trial might have sorted that out through evidence and expert testimony.
  • By settling:
    • Lively gave up the opportunity to fully establish those distinctions before a jury.

🧠 Final Take: Why Lawyers Think §47.1 Is Such a Stretch (09:12–End)

  • NAG concludes that:
    • yes, Lively clearly prevailed on the defamation dismissal,
    • and that issue was always going to trigger §47.1 arguments.
  • But the real difficulty is enforcement.
  • Many of the factual findings needed to maximize or prove §47.1 remedies:
    • were never adjudicated because the case settled before trial.
  • Final takeaway:
    • §47.1 may provide a path forward,
    • but because the statute is legally untested and so many factual issues remain unresolved,
    • Everyone is still operating in uncertain territory.
u/Fantastic-Prize-4669 — 5 days ago
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Summary and transcript of Kevin Fritz's interview with Lauren (Court of Random Opinion)

Transcript can be found: https://penpres.com/article/attorney-for-justin-baldoni-and-the-wayfarer-parties-kevin-fritz-speaks-with-court-of-random-opinion-lauren

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Key points

1. The settlement was a clear win 
The settlement is a win for Justin and the other Wayfarer Parties as $0 of the $300M Blake Lively sought was awarded. They got the very same result they would have gotten had they been 100% successful at trial. The settlement allowed them to reach the best possible trial outcome without the risk. 

To recap, here is what happened over the course of the case. Blake Lively voluntarily dismissed her two (2) emotional distress claims when asked for medical records. Judge Liman then dismissed 10 claims at summary judgement. And this week Blake called Freedman’s office out of the blue saying they need to immediately go to a private mediation, and she want to get this settled immediately and voluntarily withdraw the remaining three claims against business entities. She was the one who reached out to Freedman out of the blue. 

 

2. Having no NDA is highly unusual but transparency was always their goal.
Yes, again, as previously told, the settlement contains no non-disclosure agreement or confidentiality clause, which while very unusual and absolutely not the norm was important to Justin and the others. They have always wanted to be transparent and tell the public the truth.

 

3. The media strategy was intentional and effective
The public release of text messages and emails helped with shifting public opinion overwhelmingly in favor of the Wayfarer Parties. Fritz acknowledges that content creators like Not Actually Golden, Little Girl Attorney and Lauren helped explain the legal  proceedings in accessible language and offered insights which he personally found helpful.

 

4. The content creator subpoenas were unprecedented
Blake Lively issued approximately 100 subpoenas to content creators and others. Fritz says he has never seen anything like it in his career and didn't understand the strategic benefit of pissing off people who were writing about the case. He just can’t quite get the strategic logic of that act. Same here Fritz, same here. 

 

5. Attacks on Bryan Freedman were abnormal
In hundreds of cases he has worked on, he has never seen the volume or severity of personal attacks on opposing counsel that Freedman had to endure throughout this ordeal. He notes that isn’t it ironic that Blake tried to muzzle Freedman from speaking and publicly defending his clients, while her attorneys were running up and around the gasket doing the same (paraphrasing here and use of words are mine). It’s hypocritical for Blake Lively’s lawyers to be doing the very same thing they accused Freedman of doing. Ain’t that a word?

 

6. Vanzan lawsuit was a procedural end-run
Fritz calls Vanzan lawsuit unprecedented in his 20+ years of practice. He believes its sole purpose was to serve subpoenas (particularly targeting Jennifer Abel's communications) without giving proper notice to the affected parties. Here he thanks the public for helping to uncover this maneuver. 

 

7. The case isn't fully over
There is still Blake’s Rule 47.1 motion, Jen Abel’s third-party claim against Jonesworks in the consolidated case, and Stephanie Jones v. Jennifer Abel (a separate lawsuit, which has a conference scheduled for August 2026). Fritz emphasizes that Jen still deserves public support so please show up for her like you did for Justin. She had her privacy violently violated in the most disgusting way possible. 

 

8. They had minimal concerns about the jury
They were worried about there been a possibility they couldn’t have seated an unbiased jury. The Southern District of New York is large enough that many people had never heard of either party. He found it strange that Blake and her lawyers were raising the idea of the jurors being "passive participants in the smear campaign." Like, seriously? 

 

9. It’s important that we know there is a human cost to a case like this
There are five people Blake decide to ruin willy nilly. Justin Baldoni, Jamie Heath, Jennifer Abel, Melissa Nathan, and Steve Sarowitz had their lives affected for 18 months. More than half of them weren't even on set.

Yet, she waged a most disgusting smear campaign on them (my words). She doxxed Justin’s house address which resulted in him moving and Steve Sarowitz had an arsonist on his property as a result of this case. So, they had to deal with safety concerns amidst the emotional toll of prolonged litigation.

So, while we think they should have not settled and gone to trial, put that in mind and remember that they got the very same result with the settlement they would have gotten at trial if they had been 100% successful. For me, it does put things in context. Not sure about you. 

 

10. Why not go to trial?
Following up on the previous point, the reason is simple: they achieved the same result without the risk, cost, and emotional toll on their clients. He understands the public appetite for a trial and the need to see justice but: 

-      Wayfarer Parties bore the emotional and financial burden, not the public; 

-      There was always inherent uncertainty with a jury; 

-      The settlement achieved the same result as a best-case trial verdict; and 

-      Everyone was ready to move on

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u/Fantastic-Prize-4669 — 6 days ago
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Finally some real takes from the bigs

I always check the news agencies after big events in the saga, and usually am disappointed. Today though it’s a big shift to lucidity. 👍

u/Fantastic-Prize-4669 — 5 days ago