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Why do many INTJs have a strong desire for "Ti", particularly INTPness?

I have often seen that, many INTJs have a strong desire for Ti, particularly their association to INTPness. Some even want to see themselves closer to INTP, by ignoring their Ni, in favor of IT(N).

Is it because of popular ideas like INTP considered as the most intelligent type or most logically proficient type? Or something else?

Because, before a judging function like thinking, an INTJ leads with an irrational function like Ni, a perceiving function. The perceiving function first needs to be acknowledged before any other secondary judging function like thinking.

And Jung closely associates Ni to artists, authors, and sometimes mystics, seers and shamans before a logician (I mean anything like Ti).

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u/Even-Broccoli7361 — 6 hours ago
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My unconventional view on auxiliary (and tertiary) function...

Jung, in his Psychological Types writes that, an individual possess all four perceiving and judging functions. But what type he is, is determined by his preference for the function.

For instance,

>Extraversion is active when it is intentional, and passive when the object compels it, i.e., when the object attracts the subject’s interest of its own accord, even against his will. When extraversion is habitual, we speak of the extraverted type (q.v.).

Same is true for introversion. So, the person's chief (dominant) type is determined by his preference of use. But the more his preference for a function decreases, the more it starts getting lower on stack.

Say for instance, an ISTP, it would be Ti > Se > Ni > Fe (according to Myers theory). Here we could say for an ISTP his preference for Ti is highest, and then it slowly goes towards sensation (Se), intuition (Ni) and finally feeling (Fe).

Therefore, even though an ISTP has Se just like an Se dom (ESTP or ESFP), one could never say, his preference for Se is as high as the ESXP. From this sense, I would say, there is always a possibility of switching between his lower functions of the different attitude. So, the ISTP may switch between Si and Se, or Ne and Ni, since he is not too keen on using his these conscious functions (Se and Ni). But where he would really hesitate to switch between Ti and Te, which is his prmary.

This aligns with Von Franz's, Jung's closest student, statement that an Fi dom, may always have access to Ti but never Fe (the opposite attitude of his dominant function).

And that is why, I believe many types, especially, IXTJs IXFJs, remain confused. Even though they strong judging functions in middle, but they never act like dominant types. Hence, an INFJ or INTJ can always have Fe or Te, but it is always regulated and internalized under dominant introverted function, since it was his not primary preference of function.

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u/Even-Broccoli7361 — 2 days ago
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Most common to rarest types...

I see some statistics about MBTI percentage, which is rare, which is common. But from my own observation these are the most common types I have found online.

Tier - 1 (Most common): INFJ, INFP, INTP, INTJ [duh]. It is pretty obvious, especially considering INFJs perceived to be as one of the rarest types, yet every one of two persons I have met turns out to be an INFJ.

Tier - 2 (Pretty common): ISFP, ENFP, ENTP

Tier - 3 (Average): ISTJ, ENFJ, ISTP

Tier - 4 (Uncommon): ENTJ, ESTP

Tier - 5 (Rare) : ESFP, ISFJ

Type - 6 (Bruh!) : ESFJ, ESTJ

Correction is welcomed. But I think tier 1 and 2 are mostly accurate.

Edit: Post title should've been most common to rarest types found online. But forgot to add online the second time I had to submit.

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u/Even-Broccoli7361 — 5 days ago