u/Ecstatic_Log6486

To the people in the poorer countries who don't want kids.

I have often wondered why younger people in the third world often seem so defeated and hopeless, even more so than their parents generation who always smile, worked so hard and did everything to ensure that their kids would live a better life than themselves. I'm specifically dedicating this post to Thailand, because that is the most notable example with ultra low TFR, in a country still needing to grow economically, but the same could be applied to Colombia (TFR:1.28) and Argentina (TFR1.1). Thailand is also the only country I have visited with these conditions present.
The generation of your parents endured way worse conditions and build up the economic base in for example Thailand where the economy in the 1970s were one of the poorest worldwide, but today Thailand has living standards approaching those of the Balkans, a huge improvement on the way to becoming industrialized. However the growth in Thailand has largely stalled and been surpassed by its neighbors like Vietnam and Malaysia who both have healthier demographics too, way healthier in case of Vietnam and are growing faster.

I think the answer is pretty simple, your parents generation spoiled u and wanted to ensure u lived easier lives, but in doing so made u just lazy enough to not pursue wealth and better living conditions with the same vigor. At the same time, social media and mass tourism exposed u to the living conditions of the richest parts of the Western world such as in Beverly Hills and New York. Instead of using this gap in living conditions as motivation to improve yourselves, you instead gave up and declared all hopeless because of external factors.

My ancestors in my country Denmark worked in factories with no sunlight as kids and would develop Ricketts disease and other malformation, yet they still had kids and continued to work and didn't lie flat like some young Thai people advocate. In the 1800s of Denmark and early 1900s, Denmark was under a corrupts elite and king too, who embellized themselves too massively compared to the general population, but the Danish people still didn't lie flat and exalted that everything was hopeless.

This expectation that your nation and you as a people is deservant of wealth without putting in the hard work is to me disgusting. I'm glad my forefathers worked hard so Denmark today can enjoy great wealth, but the Thai people don't seem to have this sense of foresight.

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u/Ecstatic_Log6486 — 3 days ago
▲ 100 r/Natalism

If they still design housing after a supposed, long gone "population explosion" then they will only continue to contribute to further population decline in reality.

u/Ecstatic_Log6486 — 8 days ago

I feel like 2011-2016 was in many ways peak life, being 8-13 in those years seemed like the best time ever. Of course I must agree with other posters that 2023 and 2024 were peak years of the 2020s, but they just don't compare to the early 2010s in anyway, you should have been alive instead of shitting your pooppants. This short era of modernity before the shrinkflation, housing crisis, rapid demographic change of the entire Western world, with Obama at the helm of the West, it was perfect...

u/Ecstatic_Log6486 — 11 days ago