u/DogeABanana

▲ 0 r/TheSequels+1 crossposts

Hey everyone!

I've been thinking a lot lately about the conclusion to the Sequel Trilogy. As someone who actually grew up watching the ST, I have a massive soft spot for them. Even though I know they can be divisive, I truly believe the first two films set up a foundation that deserved a conclusion to wrap up the Skywalker Saga (from the PT to the OT to the ST) while serving characters like Finn, Poe, and Rose who were put on the back burner.

Right now, I'm piecing together a fan project called "Star Wars: The Codex Canon" that rewrites Star Wars material while blending together the best of Legends with the best of Canon. Included in this vision, I've been wondering how Episode IX would've looked if it had gone in Colin Trevorrow's direction. For the sake of this discussion, we are operating under the premise that Episode VII: "The Force Awakens" and Episode VIII: "The Last Jedi" remain exactly as they are (minus the hypothetical removal of a few cringeworthy moments such as overplayed Marvel humor, forced kisses, and minor inconsistencies) to let the real story shine!

Before getting into the alternate script, I do want to give credit where it's due: I enjoy many aspects of The Rise of Skywalker. The Goonies-style mystery in the first act is incredibly fun, C-3PO's larger (albeit, comedic) role was a blast, the visuals are absolutely gorgeous, and the score is fantastic.

However, for this project, I'm looking specifically at Colin Trevorrow's unproduced script, Episode IX: "Duel of the Fates." If you aren't familiar with it, here are some resources:

I'm really curious to hear all of your opinions: if you were in the writer's room for Duel of the Fates, what changes (big or small) would you make to improve it and tie Star Wars together? I'm not talking about throwing the whole script away and writing a completely new Episode IX, but rather tweaking what's already there to make it the best possible finale.

P.S: Just a quick reminder that the DOTF script we're discussing (the only one that leaked) was an early draft, not a production-ready screenplay.

To kick things off, here are a few ideas I've been tossing around, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on them:

  • The stormtroopers think of Finn (to them, FN-2187) as some kind of legend who stood up to Phasma and was brave enough to defect, along with having Finn and Poe discuss/resolve the fact that Poe killed Finn's friend, Slip, during the Jakku raid in The Force Awakens (the stormtrooper who smeared blood across Finn's helmet).
  • To respectfully account for Carrie Fisher's tragic passing in late 2016, I feel Lucasfilm could have adapted this script - and the revisions to come - by shifting the bulk of Leia's active role to Lando (or rather, General Lando) to honor the OT. Leia's presence could be preserved for a beautifully inspiring speech broadcast to the entire galaxy (much like the original DOTF script), giving Carrie the massive moment she deserves.
  • I like the idea where Hux collects lightsabers and Force-related artifacts ("Hux lost the Star Wars") and dies using Mace Windu's (?) purple lightsaber - but to make it work, I think the comedic elements (such as Hux trying to use the Force to spite Kylo and Rose laughing at Hux during interrogation) need to be removed. Playing his desperation and downfall entirely straight allows the stakes to feel much more serious (along with making Hux feel like the same character we met during The Force Awakens).
  • Trevorrow's script utilizes Mortis as a location and major plot point, but since Mortis is a spiritual realm that appears to you rather than a place you can just fly a ship to, I thought about swapping it out. What if we used the Wellspring of Life/Planet of the Whills (where Yoda went during S6 of The Clone Wars) instead? It is far more accessible for a physical journey and could serve the same narrative purpose. Integrating minor ideas about the Whills could be a brilliant way to incorporate George Lucas's original ST concepts as well.

Enough about my ideas; I really want to hear some great opinions from this community! How would you fix the pacing, the character arcs, or the final battle in Duel of the Fates/Episode IX?

  • Note: Let's keep the discussion constructive, civil and avoid any racism, homophobia, etc. Please respectfully bypass the "the saga ended at Return of the Jedi" takes as well; I'd love to keep the focus specifically on how to make this Episode IX the best it could be!

May the Force be with you! Always.

u/DogeABanana — 11 days ago

The Sequel Trilogy is Beautiful

I'm an aspiring creator myself, so I'm always looking at how editing can be used to convey powerful emotions. Recently, I stumbled upon this gorgeous tribute by StarWarsCentralized.

I grew up with the ST movies and they were a huge part of my bond with my family, so seeing them treated with this much respect is beautiful! These movies were my home. They were the bridge that connected me to my family. However, for a long time, I let the noise and the negativity of the Star Wars fanbase drown that out. I fell into a pit of cynicism because it felt like the only way to be a real fan.

If you've ever felt like you had to hide your love for these movies, please watch this. It's only three minutes long, but reminds me that the story of Star Wars is, above all else, beautiful. :)

u/DogeABanana — 13 days ago
▲ 12 r/TheCloneWars+4 crossposts

Hello everyone!

Like many of you, I have a profound love for The Clone Wars TV Series. While I am eternally grateful for the "Lost Missions" we received on Netflix and the final season from Disney+, I've always found myself looking at the "Legacy" materials - the plots, the unfinished story reels, the concept art - and wondering: What if we got it all?

As an aspiring screenwriter, I've spent the last few days trying to piece that puzzle together. My goal was to create a 20-episode-per-season cohesion while blending the best of the Legacy material with canon changes made to the existing Season 7. This is part of a larger personal project I'm working on, Star Wars: The Codex Canon, which aims to reconcile Legends and Canon into one comprehensive narrative!

In this "blueprint," I've adhered as closely as possible to the original production codes and the information found on Wookieepedia's "Legacy" page. However, I've also taken some creative liberties:

- I've moved the Son of Dathomir arc to the end of Season 6. This ensures that when Maul appears as a hologram on Oba Diah in Ahsoka's Walkabout, it fits the chronology of him being active and leading the Shadow Collective.

- I've omitted the "Sith Shrine" episodes, since Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka's reunion in the final arc should be more impactful. Perhaps this material can be used elsewhere!

To make this guide easy to navigate, I've added a quick legend to the episode lists below: you'll see a 🔷 (Blue Diamond) next to arcs based on Legacy/Unfinished concepts, and a 🔶 (Gold Diamond) next to the episodes that were officially finished and released by Lucasfilm!

Season 6

1. The Unknown 🔶

A clone trooper succumbs to a mysterious mental illness, resulting in the shocking death of a Jedi Master.

2. Conspiracy 🔶

Fives uncovers a secret hidden in the Kaminoan cloning program while Tup undergoes medical testing.

3. Fugitive 🔶

On the run from his own, Fives tries to find the truth behind the malfunction that caused a clone to kill.

4. Orders 🔶

Fives's quest for answers brings him to Coruscant, where he risks everything to expose a galactic conspiracy.

5. An Old Friend 🔶

Padmé Amidala is reunited with a former flame who claims to have evidence of corruption on Scipio.

6. The Rise of Clovis 🔶

Anakin's jealousy strains his relationship with Padmé, unaware of the trap the Separatists have set.

7. Crisis at the Heart 🔶

Rush Clovis's deal with the Separatists backfires as the Banking Clan faces collapse.

8. The Disappeared: Part I 🔶

A prophecy threatens the spiritual balance of the mystic world.

9. The Disappeared: Part II 🔶

Jar Jar Binks and Mace Windu race against the clock to save a missing queen.

10. The Lost One 🔶

The Jedi renew an investigation into the mysterious disappearance of Master Sifo-Dyas.

11. Voices 🔶

Yoda hears a voice from the past that leads him on a journey to escape the Jedi Temple.

12. Destiny 🔶

On a mysterious world at the heart of the galaxy, Yoda undergoes a series of trials to uncover the secret to immortality.

13. Sacrifice 🔶

Yoda faces the evil of Moraband.

14. Rescue on Tatooine 🔷

Boba Fett forms an uneasy alliance for a high-stakes rescue.

15. Sands of Serolonis 🔷

The bounty hunters find themselves caught in a conflict with local Tusken Raiders.

16. Honor Among Thieves 🔷

Tensions rise between the galaxy's most notorious gunslingers.

17. Enemy of My Enemy 🔷

After escaping from Sidious, Maul regathers the Shadow Collective to wage war against his former master.

18. A Tale of Two Disciples 🔷

Count Dooku and General Grievous lead an assault on Maul's forces.

19. Proxy War 🔷

Mother Talzin intervenes from the spirit realm as the battle between the Sith and the Mandalorians reaches a breaking point.

20. Son of Dathomir 🔷

Darth Sidious arrives on Dathomir to deal with the threat of Maul and Talzin once and for all.

Season 7

1. A Death on Utapau 🔷

Anakin and Obi-Wan travel to Utapau following the enigmatic murder of a Jedi Master.

2. In Search of the Crystal 🔷

The Jedi investigate the Amani tribes on the plains of Utapau.

3. Crystal Crisis 🔷

Anakin and Obi-Wan attempt to stop a dangerous arms deal between Sugi raiders and General Grievous.

4. The Big Bang 🔷

In a race against time, the Jedi must destroy the Kyber crystal before Grievous can deliver it to Count Dooku.

5. Gone with a Trace 🔶

In the underworld of Coruscant, Ahsoka befriends a pilot but must hide her Jedi past while trying to stop a dangerous droid.

6. Deal No Deal 🔶

Ahsoka, Trace, and Rafa deliver a shipment of spice, only to find themselves in over their heads.

7. Dangerous Debt 🔶

Taken prisoner by the Pykes, the trio must find a way to escape before their time runs out.

8. Together Again 🔶

While helping the Martez sisters, Ahsoka discovers a lingering threat that forces her to reconsider her path.

9. The Bad Batch 🔶

Captain Rex and the elite Clone Force 99 must infiltrate an enemy base on Anaxes.

10. A Distant Echo 🔶

On Skako Minor, Anakin, Rex, and the Bad Batch follow a signal that leads them to a shocking discovery.

11. On the Wings of Keeradaks 🔶

With the help of a local village, Anakin and the Batch must make a daring escape from the Techno Union.

12. Unfinished Business 🔶

Anakin Skywalker, Mace Windu, and the Bad Batch launch a final assault to reclaim Anaxes using a secret weapon of their own.

13. Lethal Alliance 🔷

The Jedi Council devises a desperate gambit to end the war, resolving that Count Dooku's death is the surest path to peace.

14. The Mission 🔷

Jedi Master Quinlan Vos is trained in the ways of the dark side by former Sith assassin Asajj Ventress.

15. Conspirators 🔷

As Vos and Ventress grow closer, their plan to assassinate Dooku puts loyalties to the test.

16. Dark Disciple 🔷

Choices are made for Vos and Ventress.

17. Wings of a Wookiee 🔷

Yoda and the Bad Batch travel to Kashyyyk to assist the Wookiees and overthrow a Trandoshan-Separatist alliance.

18. The Spirit Tree 🔷

The Wookiees and the clones must defend a sacred site against an onslaught.

19. Fire in the Canopy 🔷

Tarfful and Chewbacca lead a counter-offensive to drive the Separatists out of the treetops.

20. Good Relations 🔷

Yoda and the Wookiee warriors launch a final assault to secure the future of Kashyyyk.

Season 8 (The Final Season)

1. Saving Vos: Part I 🔷

The Jedi Council struggles to determine if Quinlan Vos has truly fallen to the dark side or if he is a double agent.

2. Saving Vos: Part II 🔷

Ventress embarks on a solo mission to rescue the man she loves from the clutches of the Separatists.

3. Traitor 🔷

Vos returns to the Jedi, but a series of leaked secrets suggests there is still a traitor in their midst.

4. The Path 🔷

In a final confrontation with Count Dooku, Vos and Ventress must choose between vengeance and the light.

5. A Tactical Divide 🔷

Tensions between ground troops and pilots boil over before a battle on Ryloth.

6. Crash Course 🔷

Stranded on a barren moon over Ryloth, Rex must set aside his distrust of "clankers" to survive a relentless pursuit.

7. Clankers 🔷

Rex, R2, and T2 lead a squad of reprogrammed battle droids on a charge to seize a Separatist array.

8. The Debt to Pay 🔷

As the mission reaches its breaking point, T2 makes a decision to ensure Rex and R2's survival.

9. Strange Signals 🔷

A scout ship disappears on the edge of the galaxy, leading Anakin and Obi-Wan to investigate.

10. The Ghost Ship 🔷

The Jedi discover a craft of unknown origin.

11. Far Outsiders 🔷

An extragalactic scout tests the Jedi's resolve in a skirmish unlike any they've faced.

12. Agents of Chaos 🔷

The Republic must decide how to handle a threat that exists outside the known conflict of the Clone Wars.

13. Return to Mon Cala 🔷

King Lee-Char of Mon Cala must rally his people for a second uprising against the Separatists.

14. Tides of Treason 🔷

A political rift within the Quarren people threatens to tear apart an alliance.

15. The King's Choice 🔷

With a massive blockade closing in and dissent rising from the depths, Lee-Char must make a harrowing decision.

16. Hope 🔷

As the Mon Cala fleet rises to meet its match, Padmé bears a lineage that will one day change the galaxy.

17. Old Friends Not Forgotten 🔶

Anakin and Obi-Wan must decide whether or not to help Ahsoka pursue Maul or rescue Chancellor Palpatine.

18. Phantom Apprentice 🔶

Ahsoka and Republic forces confront Maul on Mandalore.

19. Shattered 🔶

As Ahsoka sets out to return Maul to the Jedi, Order 66 is declared.

20. Victory and Death 🔶

With the galaxy in chaos, Ahsoka and Rex race to ensure their own survival.

Closing Thoughts

I fell in love with Star Wars right at the height of the Sequel Trilogy's release. As much as those movies defined my childhood, I was always equally infatuated with the OT and the PT. The Clone Wars, specifically, became one of my absolute favorite things in the world. Besides Rebels (which I never watched when I was younger), The Clone Wars was the only real Star Wars TV series I knew of at the time. Star Wars isn't flawless by any means, but I love all of it, and that now lifelong obsession is a massive reason why I wanted to sketch out a design for a truly finished series; not just for my own peace of mind, but with the hope that it might inspire other fans to keep dreaming about the "what ifs" of this incredible universe!

I am so grateful that so much of this information (sketches, reels, etc) has made it to light through the years. Stories like Dark Disciple and Son of Dathomir making it into canon via books and comics was an absolute gift, but I'll always have a soft spot for the "what could have been" on screen.

I'd absolutely love to hear your feedback, too. Do the arc placements make sense to you? Are there any tweaks you'd make to the timeline? Which of these stories would you have been most excited to see in the original series?

May the Force be with you!

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