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The Symptoms of Prophecy

Symptoms of Temporal Lobe Epilepsy (TLE) include muscle twitching/rigidity, facial flushing, lip smacking, confusion/fear, profuse sweating, depression/suicidal ideation and visual/auditory hallucinations.

Geschwind syndrome is a form of TLE characterized by extreme verbal output, hyperreligiosity, altered sexuality and intensified mental life.

Credible hadiths describing Muhammad's revelations:

Sahih Bukhari 6982 (First revelation)

  • "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore" (x3)
  • "his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?"
  • "the Prophet (ﷺ) became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains"

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6982

Sahih Bukhari 2

  • "Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) replied, "Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell"
  • "I saw the Prophet (ﷺ) being inspired divinely on a very cold day and noticed the sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over)"

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2

Sahih Bukhari 5

  • "Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to bear the revelation with great trouble and used to move his lips (quickly) with the Inspiration"

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5

Sahih Bukhari 4985

  • "The Prophet's face was red and he kept on breathing heavily for a while and then he was relieved. "

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4985

Sahih Bukhari 4592

  • "Allah revealed to his Apostle while his thigh was on my thigh, and his thigh became so heavy that I was afraid it might fracture my thigh.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4592

Less likely than a 7th century man in a cave getting revelation from the creator of the universe?

u/DirectionCute7530 — 3 days ago
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Three Errors in Islamic Embryology

The descriptions of embryonic and fetal development in the Quran and the hadith contain at least three errors:

Error 1

Quran 23:14 gives the order of embryonic development but says flesh comes after bones.

>"Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allāh, the best of creators."
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>Quran 23:14

There is never a point where an embryo is just a skeleton without flesh.

Error 2

Sahih (authentic) hadiths say women have a "thin and yellow" discharge and that the child resembles whoever discharges first.

>"Man's discharge (i. e. sperm) is thick and white and the discharge of woman is thin and yellow."
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>Sahih Muslim 311

>"If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble the father, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her."
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>Sahih Bukhari 3329

Women have no "thin and yellow" discharge that contributes to the child's resemblance. The child's resemblance is based on genetics, not who discharges first.

Error 3

Sahih (authentic) hadith says fetuses are a clot of blood from 40-80 days and a piece of flesh from 80-120 days.

> * "a human being is put together in the womb of the mother in forty days [0-40 days], > * and then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period [40-80 days], > * and then a piece of flesh for a similar period [80-120 days]" > > Sahih Bukhari 3208

Between days 40-80 fetuses aren't a blood clot. They develop fingers and toes. Between 80-120 days, they aren't a lump of flesh. They develop bones.

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u/DirectionCute7530 — 5 days ago

Islam's Crucifixion Problems

Denying the crucifixion creates major historical, theological, and epistemological (trust) problems for Islam:

Historical:
Crucifixion was humiliating in the Roman empire and a curse under Jewish Law (Deuteronomy 21:23, Galatians 3:13). All earliest recoverable evidence, including Paul who met Jesus' brother James and disciple Peter (Galatians 1:18-19), points to Jesus' followers preaching his crucifixion even while admitting it's a stumbling block for conversion (1 Corinthians 1:23).
Why invent a shameful and cursed death for their messiah?
If they wanted to lie, denial would make more sense.

Exactly what the Quran does 600 years later, saying the crucifixion "was made to appear so" (Quran 4:157).

Theological:
Yet the same Quran praises Jesus' disciples as sincere helpers of Allah (Quran 3:52), says Allah made them uppermost (Quran 61:14), and promises to elevate them until the Day of Judgement (Quran 3:55). **Trilemma:**

  1. If Jesus' disciples believed the crucifixion occurred, even Allah's sincere followers are misled by His deception.
  2. If their testimony was immediately lost or corrupted, Allah's promises of dominance and elevation are impotent.
  3. If they lied, the Quran falsely praises deceivers as sincere helpers of Allah.

Epistemological (Trust):
Islamic theology affirms Allah uses makr (strategic deception) and istidraj (entrapment through false impressions).

One of Allah's deceptions (making the crucifixion "appear so") already produced a global damnable shirk religion (Christianity). How can we trust the revelation of the Quran isn't another deception that produced another damnable religion (Islam)?

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u/DirectionCute7530 — 5 days ago