u/Deep-Detective2428

As someone who really struggles with blushing and has had it effect my life in many different ways, especially socially and specifically work and study, i know how bad it can get and the confidence it can take away from you.

To put it straight and simple I have a perception for both Propranolol and Clonidine and ive tested both out to figure out what works best for flushing / blushing.

Propranolol = a better medication for treating a racing heart / a bit of nerves and shaky hands / a shaky voice.

Clonidine = a far better medication for the actual blushing itself, it genuinely will make my skin loose the redness and makes it extremely hard to go red (depending on the dose) where with propranolol i found that it didn't take any colour out of my skin overall.

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Why Clonidine Can Reduce the Actual Redness =

Clonidine is an alpha-2 adrenergic agonist, meaning it works mainly in the brain and nervous system to reduce overall sympathetic (“fight-or-flight”) activity. Instead of only blocking adrenaline at one location, it decreases the release of norepinephrine throughout the body.

Because blushing and flushing are strongly connected to sympathetic nerve activity and facial blood vessel dilation, clonidine can reduce the signals that trigger that response. In many people, this makes it noticeably harder for blood to suddenly rush into the face, which is why the skin can appear less red or reactive.

Since clonidine acts centrally on the nervous system, it can also cause a more global calming effect — lowering blood pressure and heart rate — which is why it may feel sedating, “heavy,” or mentally foggy.

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Why Propranolol Helps the Physical Anxiety Symptoms More (besides majority of the blushing) =

Propranolol is a beta blocker. It mainly blocks beta receptors affected by adrenaline, especially in the heart and muscles.This makes it very effective for symptoms like: racing heart, shaky hands, shaky voice, physical tension “performance anxiety” symptoms.

However, facial blushing is not driven only by the same beta pathways. It involves a more complex mix of emotional processing, sympathetic nerve activity, and facial blood vessel responses. Because of that, propranolol often helps the feeling of anxiety more than the actual facial redness itself. Some people still notice reduced blushing on propranolol, but many find clonidine stronger specifically for flushing and facial redness.

lately ive been taking 300mg of elemental magnesium in the form of glycinate every single night as well as omega 3 fish oil suplements high in epa and zinc, in the form of suplements! overall ive noticed alot of improvement in my baseline anxiety and baseline blushing if that makes any sense. if your feeling on edge, feel like your really quick to blush and go red id definitely give these a try! they won't make it so you cant blush but they can definitely make you feel alot calmer / lower inflammation which does seem to help a bit with the severity of blushing! I hope this helps somebody out :)

For anyone struggling with blushing and red skin, green concealer wells amazingly at neutralising the redness!

I know some times when you struggle with something so draining and hard such as blushing, that it can be easy to dismiss possible solutions / ways to help the severity due to them sounding a bit too easy / ridiculous, such as putting a green concelar on your face! But beleive me it works wonders. I personally use one i got from Mecca!

And for those who may be confused and think "wait won't your face look green" well it depends, if you put it on the right way and let it slightly fade ive found i dont need to put any nornal colour makeup over it! Though you can also apply it in a way where you put the green conclear on and than add a foundation but personally ive found i can add the green concealer and if I do it right it fades a bit and matches my skin colour / hides redness.

Welcome to r/curingblushing 👋

If you’re here, chances are blushing or flushing has been affecting your confidence or day-to-day life, and you’re definitely not alone. This community is all about sharing experiences, advice, and real progress toward managing and improving blushing, with the goal of finding both new and established ways to reduce or even cure it :)

Whether you’re just starting to understand your triggers, exploring treatments, already seeing results, or just here to learn and observe, you’re more than welcome here!

We’d also really appreciate your help and feedback, if you have ideas or topics you’d like discussed, feel free to post or get involved. Every bit of engagement helps build the community.

Feel free to introduce yourself, ask questions, or share your journey, no pressure to post though, even just reading along is totally fine.

Glad to have you with us 🤝

If you're reading this, you probably already know what it's like. You know what it's like to dread social situations not because you're shy, but because your face betrays you the second any emotion hits. You've probably Googled everything. You've probably tried things that didn't work. You might be at the point where ETS surgery is starting to sound like a real option just because you're desperate enough.

I want to talk about something that has genuinely, physiologically, measurably helped me, and that I think is one of the most underrated, under-discussed treatments in the entire blushing space. Barely anyone talks about it. When it does come up, it gets dismissed based on a misconception that I'm going to address directly. And that dismissal is causing people who could be helped to never even try it.

(This is a long thurrer detailed text with very valuable information that is all relevant and beneficial to blushers. Please dont let the length of this put you off, i promise this has all the information you'll need, plus my own personal experience and what not to do.)

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First — the misconception that needs to be killed

If you've ever searched for laser treatment for blushing, you've probably seen some version of this response: laser only works for rosacea or permanently red skin, it can't help with reactive blushing

I heard this too. And I want to be very direct: this is wrong, and it's a major misconception that is actively putting people off a treatment that could change their life

I went through a proper medical clinic, not a beauty salon, not a budget laser place. My clinic has a medical structure to it. I had a full consultation before any treatment was performed, and the laser itself is operated by a qualified nurse under the oversight of a respected, experienced doctor. This matters enormously, and I'll come back to it.

During my consultation, I raised this exact concern, that I'd read laser was only useful for permanent redness, not reactive blushing. The nurse and doctor both confirmed clearly and confidently that this is not true. Laser absolutely can help people who blush reactively. It has helped several of their own patients who came in with exactly the same complaint. The mechanism makes complete sense once you understand how the treatment works, and I'll explain that below.

If someone tells you laser can't help reactive blushing, they either don't have experience treating it or they're thinking of lower-grade equipment. The Excel V in the hands of people who know what they're doing is a different thing entirely.

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Why I think this treatment is massively underrated

This is my honest take: Excel V for blushing is one of the most slept-on treatments out there and I genuinely don't understand why it isn't discussed more in communities like this one.

We spend so much time talking about beta blockers, clonidine, therapy, and in desperate cases ETS surgery, and all of those either come with significant side effects, don't address the physical cause, or carry irreversible risk. Excel V is none of those things. It's non-invasive, it has a few days of downtime, it works cumulatively, and it targets the actual physical mechanism behind blushing. It's not masking anything. It's not sedating your nervous system. It's reducing the vascular infrastructure in your face that produces the redness in the first place.

The fact that this isn't the first thing people in blushing communities point to when someone asks for help genuinely baffles me. I think it comes down to two things, the misconception that it only works for rosacea, and the fact that not enough people who've had success with it have come back to share their experience. I want to be one of those people.

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A bit about my situation so you know where I'm coming from

Blushing has genuinely wrecked a big part of my life over the last several years. I'm not a light blusher. When I get triggered, anxiety, embarrassment, emotion, sometimes for seemingly no reason, I go dark, dark red all over my cheeks. The skin feels hot and burning. It's not subtle. It's the kind of blushing that people notice, comment on, and that you become completely consumed by in the middle of it happening.

I've been through the whole list. Beta blockers, clonidine, Mirvaso, therapy, hypnosis, breathing techniques, wearing heavy foundation as a guy. I had blood tests and even an ultrasound to rule out a carcinoid tumour (a known cause of reactive flushing), came back clear. Nothing gave me what I needed. Beta blockers helped a bit but left me drowsy and aren't a long-term fix. Nothing was actually addressing what was happening in my skin.

So I went looking deeper and eventually landed on Excel V laser as something worth trying. I've now done two sessions and I want to share everything I've found in detail.

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What Excel V actually is and why it makes sense for blushing

The Excel V is a dual-wavelength laser system that uses a 532nm wavelength to target haemoglobin in blood vessels. When it hits a vessel, it damages it, and the body gradually breaks it down and absorbs it. For people like us, whose blushing is primarily a vascular issue, blood vessels in the face that dilate rapidly and intensely in response to triggers, this is treating the actual physical mechanism, not masking it.

Every session the laser targets more vessels. It won't eliminate every vessel in your face, nor would you want it to. But each session reduces the number and size of vessels available to dilate in response to triggers, which means when you blush, there's less infrastructure there to produce that intense red colour and heat. The reactivity itself decreases.

This is real, structural, cumulative change. And yes, it works on reactive blushing, not just permanently red skin. The vessel network being targeted is the same either way.

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A crucial note on where to go for this

I want to make this very clear because it matters: do not just walk into any beauty clinic or cheap laser place and ask for vascular laser treatment. The results you get, and your safety, depend enormously on the quality of the clinic, the equipment, and the person operating it.

I went to a clinic with a genuine medical structure. I had a proper consultation first where my skin, history, and goals were discussed in detail. The laser was performed by a qualified nurse. A well-respected doctor was involved in my care and the treatment decisions. This is the standard you should be looking for. The Excel V is a medical-grade laser system, it should be in the hands of people with real clinical experience using it, not someone running a discount treatment package.

When you go to the right place, you're not just getting better results. You're also getting guidance on settings, follow-up assessment, and someone who can actually adjust the approach based on how your skin is responding. That is invaluable.

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My first session — 532nm, 12ms pulse duration

The nurse used the 532nm wavelength at a 12 millisecond pulse duration. I noticed improvement almost immediately. Within the first couple of weeks post-session, when anxiety triggers came along that would normally send my face into full red, I still showed some colour, but nowhere near what I was used to. It was dramatically reduced.

About 4 weeks after session 1, I estimated a 35–45% reduction in blushing intensity. That's massive. There were multiple times where I genuinely felt like I was blushing, prepared for the worst, looked in my phone camera or asked a friend, and my face was normal. Clear. That had not happened in years.

For the first time in a while I went out at night with friends without wearing makeup or taking a beta blocker. That probably sounds small. It wasn't.

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My second session — changed to 10ms, and what happened

For session 2 four weeks later, the nurse and doctor decided to change the pulse duration from 12ms to 10ms. To clarify: pulse duration is how long the laser fires the pulse into the skin. Going shorter (10ms vs 12ms) means it hits faster and harder, which in theory should mean more damage to vessels and better results.

I was on board. What happened was more swelling, I looked swollen for around 5–8 days vs the 2–4 days after session 1, which was expected. But the results were different in a way I didn't expect.

Post session 2, my blushing felt *worse* than post session 1. Still better than before I ever had laser, but noticeably less improved than after the first session.

Here's my theory on why, and I want to be upfront that this is speculation. I can't scientifically confirm this is exactly why my results differed between sessions, and there could be other factors at play I'm not aware of:

At 10ms, the laser did more intense, precise damage exactly where each pulse hit. I could actually see the spots more clearly, defined areas where vessels were gone. But the coverage across my face as a whole felt *less* broad. The areas between those precise hit points hadn't improved as much. My overall facial reactivity was still high because the treatment, while more intense per spot, was more localised.

At 12ms, even just 2 milliseconds slower, the pulse covered a slightly broader area per hit. The result was less dramatic spot-by-spot, but better overall reduction in the diffuse, whole-face reactivity that is the actual problem with blushing. The whole-face redness went down more.

Again, this is my personal theory and I can't confirm it as fact. Some people may respond completely differently to 10ms and see excellent results from it. Everyone's skin and vessel network is different and it may well be the better setting for certain people. But based on my own experience and the way it makes sense to me logically, my personal opinion is that 12ms is significantly better for broad facial blushing, and if I were advising anyone going in for this treatment I would 100% recommend requesting 12ms. It's what I'll be doing going forward.

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What to realistically expect — the honest version

Results vary based on how vascular and reactive your skin is. Some people with milder blushing may be satisfied after 1–2 sessions. People like me, with intense, full-face, rapidly triggered blushing, will likely need 4–6 sessions minimum, and that's okay, because the improvement at that point is genuinely life-changing.

I want to be real with you: even after 4–6 sessions you might still get a little pink sometimes. You might not be completely blush-free in every situation forever. But here's what I can tell you with complete confidence, the difference between where you start and where you end up after multiple sessions is not subtle. It is not marginal. It is the difference between your face going dark, burning red and dominating your entire existence in a social situation, versus a light flush that comes and goes and doesn't destroy you. That gap is enormous.

And I'll add this, because it genuinely surprised me and I want to be honest about it without overpromising. There have been multiple situations since starting treatment where I was completely convinced I was blushing. I felt warm, I was in exactly the kind of situation that would have set me off before, and I braced for it. Checked my camera or asked a friend, and my face was completely normal. Not a little pink. Nothing. That's not something I expected and I can't guarantee it'll happen for everyone, but it has happened for me more than once, and it tells me the treatment in some situations can fully stop a blush from materialising at all.

That said, I'm not promising you zero redness ever. I'm telling you what my honest experience has been. There have still been times post-treatment where I've visibly blushed. It hasn't disappeared completely. But when I zoom out and look at where I actually sit now versus before I started, it's a huge reduction. My blushing overall is nowhere near as intense or as frequent as it was. There have been situations where it hasn't really come on at all. And the freedom that comes with even that level of improvement is something I hadn't felt in years. For hard blushers the realistic goal going in is meaningful, life-changing reduction. Anything beyond that is a bonus, and those bonuses do happen.

Unlike a lot of things people try for this, this isn't a "maybe it'll help" situation. If you have skin that goes red, laser will reduce it. That is not optimism, that is just what the treatment does, it's physically breaking down the vessels responsible. The only unknown is how many sessions you personally need to reach a level you're happy with. For hard blushers that number is higher, but the destination is real and worth every session to get there.

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On ETS — why this matters

If you're at the point where you're seriously considering endoscopic thoracic sympathectomy, I understand. I've been in that headspace. When nothing works and the condition is destroying your quality of life, something irreversible starts to feel worth the risk.

But ETS carries a real, well-documented risk of compensatory sweating that many patients find as debilitating or worse than the original condition. It's a surgery that cannot be undone. Before going there, Excel V deserves a serious look. It's non-invasive, it has minimal downtime, and in my experience it produces real, physiological, measurable change.

It's not a cure. I'm not claiming that. But it's a genuine treatment that gives real improvement, and for a lot of people that might be enough to get their life back. Please, before you consider anything irreversible, give this a proper shot first.

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Practical notes if you want to pursue this

- Go to a proper medical-grade clinic, a consultation before treatment and a qualified nurse or doctor performing the laser is non-negotiable

- Ask specifically for the Excel V laser with the 532nm wavelength for vascular work

- The pulse duration matters, based on my experience, 12ms worked better than 10ms for broad, diffuse facial blushing. Raise this with your provider

- Expect some swelling and pulse marks for a few days post-session, this is normal and temporary

- Space sessions roughly 4–6 weeks apart

- Most people with significant blushing will need 4–6 sessions minimum to reach meaningful, lasting reduction

- Results build over time, don't judge the treatment on one session alone

- If someone tells you laser can't help reactive blushing, push back. It's a misconception. Find a clinic with actual vascular laser experience and ask them directly

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*Disclaimer: I used AI to help structure and organise this post and make it readable, but every single piece of information, every experience, and every observation written here came entirely from my own notes and writing. Nothing has been exaggerated or invented. This is my honest account.*