u/DannyDodeska

24 V battery system, can use a mobility scooter charger???

I've got a spare mobility scooter charger with the usual 3 pins to charge the pair of deep cycle batteries (in series) that most have.

There's + and - and a centre "data" one which I gather informs the charger about the charging progress so the charger's amber light turns green when they're fully charged and I believe it floats them thereafter.

What happens if I attach this charger to a 24 V off-grid (AGM?) battery for household use? Can I use this feedback circuit somehow or just monitor the battery manually and detach them when a certain voltage is reached?

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u/DannyDodeska — 3 days ago

Hi all, need ideas or examples (Brisbane). We already have a grid-tied system that's 14 years old but works perfectly. It has a very generous FIT that you wouldn't get today (which we LOSE if we make changes).

There are hundreds of solar panels being removed these days so they're available cheap or free AND I've sometimes seen hybrid inverters in FB Marketplace for $100 or so. The issue is they need batteries, typically 48 volt which cost thousands 😕

If it weren't for that issue I'd have put up some second hand panels, attached the inverter/battery and used it ONLY during the middle of the day to charge an electric car by now. What's holding me back from getting an EV is that we depend on exporting electricity during the day to give us a small tax free income every 3 months in retirement so this has to be quite separate from the above.

24 volt batteries are much cheaper and we only need them to smooth out the fluctuations in mid day production, not as storage for (overnight) charging. So can anyone suggest an economical way around this? The ideal would be someone upgrading a small completely off grid system and getting rid of everything even if the battery is old and tired. I just can't afford to spend thousands of dollars on a new lithium 48 volt battery.

Any polite alternative suggestions welcome thanks 🙏

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u/DannyDodeska — 10 days ago

When we bought this house some years ago I replaced the fuse wires with plug-in circuit breakers (like-for-like in amps) but otherwise I haven't changed anything you see here.

The analogue meters were professionally removed when the solar system went in then we had the huge HW storage tank replaced with a rooftop Solahart. At that time I noticed that the original wiring for the (high amperage) HWS appeared to be standard 10 amp - so was the new isolation switch / indicator light they put in the laundry room.

So looking at this panel it appears that there's perhaps 32 amp wiring from the bus bar to the HWS switch and from there to the (16 amp) breaker beside it BUT the original wiring to the HW heater (white zip tie) is standard 10 amp. I'm guessing this was manifestly inadequate for many years but fortuitously our Solahart only draws 7.5 amps according to the label affixed.

My question is, am I correct in thinking this was not to code and dangerous for decades or was this standard practice for new builds in the 80's? Also is there any reason I should change the 16 amp breaker to something smaller? What's the consensus?

u/DannyDodeska — 13 days ago

Hi all. I tried posting before but didn't get much traction, probably because I hadn't scoped things out enough first. Now I'm thinking between 3 KW and 4 KW locally available used solar panels to keep a 24 volt battery happy while I'm topping up a small EV (maybe 40 kWh) battery - daytime charging only needed as we're retired.

I looked at 48 volt lithium batteries which are more common but they're thousands of dollars which defeats the whole idea of having cheap transportation. Has anyone come across a suitable (Hybrid/ Off-grid?) inverter which can supply 240 volts at perhaps 15 amps and maintain the 24 volt battery? I saw a new-ish Goodwe GW5048-EM Hybrid Inverter for $100 recently but it needs a 48 volt battery.

Any suggestions for a suitable battery? I'm unsure how big it needs to be to smooth out the (generous) insolation here in Queensland. Also I wonder if it's worth looking at a pair of AGM deep cycle batteries as they're common here for mobility scooters etc. but obviously lithium is better for this sort of thing.

Any relevant experiences I'd love to hear about. Thanks Danny.

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u/DannyDodeska — 14 days ago

I want budget off-grid charging for a small electric car (not yet purchased). Is cheap/free daily transportation really possible here in sunny Australia?

So this turned up 2nd hand cheap nearby and *if* I understand correctly I can stick 2 or 3 kw solar panels on it to charge a (48 v Lithium?) battery pack. Then I can run a L1 "charger" into say an early Nissan Leaf (40 kWh).

It's not clear from the ad but I'm guessing it has at least one 230/240v outlet for the EVSE? Does it need to have a mains supply input ALSO to keep up the battery on cloudy days or can I leave that unplugged? Feed-in to the grid is NOT an option in this instance.

Our driving demands are small being retired and we rarely get more than a day or two without sun so I'm not too worried about being unable to drive for a few days now and then. Can ayone recommend this product (or an alternative) for the application? Are there restrictions on the PANELS and/or BATTERIES that I should be aware of?

Any polite suggestions would be very welcome.

u/DannyDodeska — 18 days ago