u/Da_Kartoon1st

Tierlist based of when they'll be eaten in case theres no other food avalible

Cocoa could probably go in the same tier as Sprout and Cosmo if she could make bonbons all year and not just while she's not isolating herself

u/Da_Kartoon1st — 3 days ago

Being very close in the show set the Toon's up for inevitable failure regardless on if it worked out in real life or not (plus a lot of me ranting on Brusha and Tisha's and Sprout and Cosmo's relations because its kind of interesting to compare them)

This is not particularly well researched and kind of a rant, so I'm sorry if I missed anything, and I'll probably forget to mention a lot of sources of where some information came from. Sorry.

Brusha and Tisha's relation have paralles to Sprout and Cosmo's relation. Both were close with eachother in the show (as Dandy mentioned in his gossip about Brusha, and I don't think I need to mention evidence for Sprout and Cosmo), possibly the 2 closest bonds any Toon has, maybe outside of some siblings, and being eachothers friend likely is/was a decent chunk of their personality (although on Tisha and Brusha's side its moreso speculation). The different is that one worked out in real life, but the other didn't.

So why did Brusha and Tisha's relation didn't work out? I think 1 reason is that they failed to bond in real life. I mean cleaning and painting aren't hobby's that particularly mix well together. Shelly and Tisha worked out because 1. they likely weren't as close, being moreso good friends rather than the best friend ever, and 2. digging up fossils and cleaning are 2 hobby's that go together really well! Shelly digs up fossils, and Tisha cleans them. Painting and cleaning don't compliment eachother that well, even if Brusha doesn't seem that messy. She even wears a white sweater, something I highly do not recommend doing if you're gonna paint. Another reason I think they didn't work out is because of clashing personalities. I think that Brusha became irritable, but Tisha never really tried to stop her, even if she would get annoyed at Brusha. Tisha gives Vee the silent treatment or is very vague when talking about what Vee does wrong. Tisha just kinda lets it happen, and if she were to talk about it, it'd be so unspecific that Brusha still can't see what she did wrong.

I think part of the reason why Cosmo and Sprout still are close is because 1. they share a hobby. Both like to bake and almost certainly also cook with eachother (although the cooking aspect is rarely touched uppon, especially on Cosmo's side), and they might have to be forced to do that often since they're 2 of the only Toon's who can actually prepare food, and 2. I feel like their personalities would just go well, as well as both being very caring of others, but less to themselves; they keep eachother in check to some extend. Sprout having someone who looks out for him since he really doesn't prioritizes his own well being is good for Sprout. And remember when I said that Brusha and Tisha don't keep eachothers flaws in check? Sprout mentions to Cosmo he shouldn't give Pebble as many dog treats (Cosmo and Pebble interaction), and Cosmo often gets a little annoyed at Sprout (as seen in the _ baking shorts). They give eachother a heads up when the other does something wrong. Brusha and Tisha just kinda don't do that.

So thats why one worked out, but not the other. But why did I mention that both were set up for failure? Both Toons in each relation are likely at least a little bit incomplete without eachother. Despite having a pretty massive fallout, I feel like even if indirectly, Tisha and Brusha still seek eachother out (Tisha asking Brusha if she wants something to keep her bristles out of her face and Brusha asking Tisha to check out her art, as well as trying to compliment her), even if they don't wanna (Brusha clearly seems to want to break out of the role she was given in the show, yet she still returns to Tisha, although I'm not taking it out of consideration that she wants to be friends again regardless on whether the show told her or not). The fact that they don't connect as well in real life as in the show is honestly kind of an in universe writing flaw; the show has 2 Toons be friends who don't have it in them to be like that in real life.

Cosmo and Sprout seem to have a nice relation at first, and to an extend thats the case. I don't think either forces the other to do something they don't like for their own personal gain, seem happy to be around eachother, and despite it being in character for both to kindly ask the other to leave them alone if they wanted to stop being around, they never do, because being with the other makes eachother happy. But there's 1 problem that I should adress; they've grown to be very dependant on eachother. Sprout feels incomplete without Cosmo, and he likely became even more attached to him after having spend so much time with him. And its likely that this is mutual, since Cosmo is outright stated to have turned Twisted due to seperation in his Twisted description (which is technically only implied with Sprout, but its the same for him, lets be real), the reason Cosmo mentions Sprout a bit less often is probably because he doesn't have to overcompensate for months of feeling incomplete, because Cosmo has never been in a world where Sprout wasn't there with him, but its still wrong to assume Cosmo doesn't enjoy Sprouts company, even if they didn't realize how harmful seperation would be until it was too late.

So in short, Brusha and Tisha were set up for failure because they just don't have it in them to be friends in real life, and Cosmo and Sprout were set up for failure because they've grown so attached to eachother to the point that seperation was the reason they Twisted.

I'm sorry if this was really incoherant, I just wanted to get my thoughts out. So yeah, if you're best friends in the show, it'll either not work out, or you'll grow way too attached to eachother to the point of causing harm, even if you won't notice. Thanks for reading.

u/Da_Kartoon1st — 6 days ago

No, the game has not fallen off, nor has it gotten boring, at least for newer players. Sure, you may think the game hasn't changed enough, thats a different story, but fallen off is something very different.

Name 3 things added to the game in the last year that made the game strictly worse. No, more skins don't count, having more options isn't a bad thing, nor are they focusing on skins over gameplay, because the people who work on gameplay and modeling and skin concepts are completely different people. The only thing that I think the game was strictly worse off is the increased Twisted cap to 8. I can't think of anything else that made the game worse. If you think development is too stagent, I can see your point, but it defenitly hasn't fallen off. If the devs were to add several micro transactions you need to buy in order to even play without it sucking or making the game essentially pay to win, then yes, the game would've fallen off, but I would say that everything added is overal a net positive. Having more options that you're not required to complete or do (unless you want 100%) is not a bad thing in my opinion.

And, although I kinda agree with the game not being as fun to me as it was around the Dyle update, I've done everything. For a new player, the game isn't gonna be as boring, because they haven't done as much. Has the game gotten boring, or has the novelty for you gone away? If you were to discover the game today and started playing, would you have less fun then when you were new? I made a post on my previous account thats now hacked why the game being less fun when you have everything is a non issue, which I'll link here.

But that post in short, is the game less fun when you have everything? Yes. I used to play almost daily, which has gone to playing closer to weekly. But just like almost every game in existence, if you've done everything, theres less fun to be had. I'm not gonna say the game is boring because now I don't have fun with it anymore, ignoring the probably over 200 hours where I did have fun getting every toon, completing mastery's, getting every skin, checking out floors, doing quests, ect. Its okay to not find the game as fun as you had with it a couple months ago, but I don't think thats an issue

And I'm not trying to overglaze the game, if enough people want me to, I can make a list of critiques I have with the game and how I'd change them. Its just that saying the game is "boring now" or "has fallen off" are complaints that are just stupid in my opinion.

I might swallow my words when the game exits Alpha, but I'm gonna wait at least 2 months when 4-6 TOTW's have passed to see if the devs will do something cool with it (the only one we have now is Sprout's, and he didn't need any changes (maybe outside of his trinket being able to get a benefit from being able to be used a few more times than just once, but whatever)), so I still have hope.

So to every single one of you who thinks the game is awful now for some reason despite objectively not being in a worse state than a year ago, wait at least a little bit longer. Wait like 1 or 2 months. And, I really don't wanna be that guy, but if you're only gonna complain, consider moving on to something you actually enjoy, its for the better for you, trust me, surrounding yourself with negativity does a toll on you mental health sooner or later. Thanks for reading.

u/Da_Kartoon1st — 9 days ago