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Why Is the Entire SIR Debate Based on One Assumption?

Over the last few days, I’ve noticed a very aggressive narrative being pushed online that the Special Intensive Revision (SIR) was essentially designed only to help the BJP and suppress opposition voters. But honestly, the more I read these claims, the more one-sided and assumption-driven the entire discussion feels.

Why is it automatically being assumed that every deleted voter was a legitimate citizen and also an opposition/TMC supporter?

India’s voter rolls have had serious problems for years — duplicate voter IDs, dead voters remaining on electoral lists, migrants registered in multiple constituencies, fake entries, and documentation inconsistencies. In several states, there have even been cases where individuals were found with multiple voter IDs. If that is a known structural problem, then shouldn’t voter-roll verification be considered necessary rather than automatically anti-democratic?

What surprises me is that many commentators seem unwilling to even consider the opposite possibility: that removal of duplicate or illegitimate entries may actually have reduced manipulation that previously benefited entrenched local political machinery. In states where regional parties have ruled for years and are deeply embedded at the booth level, why is that possibility treated as completely impossible?

Another thing missing from the discourse is actual rigorous data analysis. People are making massive claims about “democracy being destroyed” or elections being “stolen”, yet very few are separating wrongful deletions from duplicate, unverifiable, or potentially illegitimate entries using constituency-level evidence.

Also, people keep criticizing the *timing* of SIR. But my genuine question is: when exactly is the “correct” time in India to do such an exercise? Elections are happening somewhere almost every year. If this had been done after elections, the same people would probably have claimed, “Look how many illegitimate voters existed — this was VOTE CHORI.” So there seems to be no timing that would satisfy everyone politically.

To be clear, I’m not saying the process was flawless. Genuine voters may absolutely have faced difficulties, and those cases should be corrected quickly. But democratic discussion should examine *all* possibilities instead of beginning with the fixed conclusion that every deletion was malicious and politically targeted.

TL;DR: Public discourse around SIR feels heavily assumption-based. Why is everyone assuming deleted voters were all legitimate and anti-BJP, while refusing to even discuss the possibility that duplicate or illegitimate entries may also have existed and influenced earlier election outcomes?

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u/Cute_Commercial7047 — 5 days ago

How long are we going to hear the same scripted line: “I’ve ordered an investigation”?

At what point does responsibility actually mean something? Not committees. Not delays. Not vague statements.

If something happened under your watch, own it. Step up. Say it clearly. Apologise to the public without hiding behind procedure.

People aren’t asking for perfection — they’re asking for accountability. And right now, that feels completely absent.

And this time even the cruise was of govt only .

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u/Cute_Commercial7047 — 14 days ago
▲ 3 r/india

I’m from Madhya Pradesh. And let’s be honest the state is in a very bad shape.

It doesn’t have the industrial strength of states that drive their own growth.

It doesn’t have the population weight of states like Uttar Pradesh or Bihar to constantly pull national attention.

Which means one thing:

There’s no external pressure—and clearly, not enough internal accountability.

Case 1 — Water failure in Indore

Indore is supposed to be one of the state’s best-run cities.

Yet safe drinking water—arguably the most basic public service—failed at scale.

This isn’t a “mistake.” This is a system-level failure.

And the real issue is not just that it happened.

It’s this:

Where is the detailed public report?

Where is the explanation of:

what exactly broke

who was responsible

what permanent systems were put in place

Because without that, nothing has actually been fixed.

If Indore can’t guarantee clean water, then the idea that smaller towns are safe is simply fiction.

Case 2 — Cough syrup incidents affecting children

This is worse.

When medicine given to children becomes unsafe, that’s not negligence—it’s collapse.

Healthcare is supposed to be the one system people can trust without hesitation.

And yet, here too, the pattern repeats:

outrage

suspensions

silence

No transparent findings.

No visible systemic overhaul.

No assurance that it won’t happen again.

Parents are left guessing whether treatment itself is safe.

That should never be a question in any functioning system.

Now look at Ladli Behna in this context

Schemes like Ladli Behna are projected as empowerment.

But step back and look at the ecosystem people are living in.

A family receives money—but:

Education → Government schools remain weak, private options are expensive

Healthcare → Incidents like unsafe medicines shake trust

Basic services → Even safe water isn’t guaranteed

So what exactly is being improved?

Because financial aid does not fix broken systems.

It only helps people cope with them.

This isn’t empowerment.

It’s compensation for systemic failure.

The real issue — complete absence of accountability

After incidents like these, a serious system would produce:

public investigations

clear responsibility

structural reforms

Here, we get:

Reaction → token action → disappearance

No public reports.

No measurable reforms.

No follow-up.

We don’t even know what has been implemented to ensure these failures don’t repeat.

So here’s the blunt question:

If a state cannot guarantee safe water or safe medicine—even in its top cities—

what exactly are these leaders accountable for?

Because governance is not about reacting to crises.

It’s about preventing them.

And right now, there is no evidence of that.

This is no longer about isolated failures.

This is about a system that has normalized failure—

where things go wrong, people react briefly, and then everything resets without real change.

So is there any way out of this?

What actually forces a system like this to improve—

public pressure?

policy change?

leadership shift?

Or does it just continue like this because no one is truly held accountable?

Because right now, this doesn’t feel temporary.

It feels like the standard.

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u/Cute_Commercial7047 — 16 days ago

I’m from Madhya Pradesh, and honestly, this isn’t just about slow development anymore.

It feels like we’re lacking even the basics of governance.

We’re not a rich, industrial state.

We’re not a high-population state that gets constant attention.

So what are we left with?

A state where there’s no urgency, no pressure, and increasingly—no accountability.

CM — where is governance beyond announcements?

At the top level, the biggest concern is simple: who is actually reviewing performance?

Do ministers get evaluated?

Do we ever see accountability for failure?

Or is it just announcements, inaugurations, and moving on?

Because from outside, it doesn’t look like anyone is being seriously questioned.

Home Ministry — can we even say law & order is strong?

This is not about isolated incidents.

It’s about the overall feeling:

Does law & order feel reliable and strong across the state?

Or does it feel like things are just somehow “running”?

There’s a difference between control and neglect—and right now it doesn’t feel like strong control.

Education Minister — the foundation itself is weak

Ground reality:

Schools without proper classrooms

Lack of teachers

Poor learning outcomes

And instead of fixing this structurally, what do we see? minister is interested in Transfers. Statements. Appearances.

No serious visible push toward:

Teacher accountability

Infrastructure improvement

Quality education

If this doesn’t change, the future of the state doesn’t change.

Health Minister — can families trust the system?

This is where it becomes alarming.

We’ve seen:

Contamination issues like in Indore

Cough syrup incidents affecting children

These are not minor issues. These are failures that directly risk lives.

Simple question:

Can anyone in the government confidently say this won’t happen again?

Not “we will try”—but guarantee?

Because the pattern is clear: Something happens → officials suspended → time passes → same system continues

No visible accountability at the top.

Energy Minister — even basics like electricity aren’t fully reliable

24/7 stable electricity should be a given by now.

But in many areas, that consistency is still not there.

If basic infrastructure like power isn’t dependable, what exactly are we building toward?

Infrastructure & Roads — everyday reality is poor

Take Gwalior as an example.

Roads that were more tunnels than road —big attention at the time.

But what changed after that?

Even now, roads in many areas are in bad condition.

No urgency. No visible long-term fix.

People deal with this daily. This is not a small issue.

And this is the bigger pattern:

Announcements → No follow-up → No report card → No consequences

Now look at it from a common person’s perspective.

Schemes like Ladli Behna give money—fine.

But then what? Are they really helping them or it's just buying of votes.

If someone wants to use that for their child’s education:

Government schools lack quality

Private schools are too expensive

If it’s for healthcare:

Can they fully trust the system?

Or worry about unsafe medicines and poor facilities?

So what are we really doing?

Fixing problems—or just temporarily easing them?

At this point, the biggest gap is accountability.

Where is the report card?

Not: “We will do this.”

But: “We promised this—and here is what we actually delivered.”

So a direct question to people from MP:

Have you actually felt real improvement in your daily life?

Or does it feel like basics—education, health, infrastructure, law & order—are still not where they should be?

And just to be clear—this is not about supporting Congress either.

We’ve seen those times as well, and many don’t want to go back.

But that doesn’t mean the present should not be questioned.

Because if even the basics are not being fixed, then what exactly are we moving forward toward?

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u/Cute_Commercial7047 — 16 days ago