u/Creepy_Employ_3749

I think I figured out why I relate to Vox so much.
▲ 41 r/SafeSpaceofVox+1 crossposts

I think I figured out why I relate to Vox so much.

Hi, I don’t know if this is appropriate to post here, but I don’t really know where else to put it. I think the reason why I relate to Vox and sympathize with him is because something similar happened to me too.

I’m autistic, so I never had many friends, and I was mostly fine with that. But I had one classmate whom I genuinely considered a friend. At one point, I even asked him if we were friends, and he agreed, so I thought our friendship was pretty solid.

Anyway, I also had a crush on a girl in my class and planned to ask her out during a school trip. My “friend” and I had talked about this before and, more importantly, chatted about it online.

During the school trip, right before the day I had planned to ask the girl out, my “friend” decided it would be funny to leak our chats into the entire class group chat, including the girl. When I confronted him about it, he just laughed and said, “You wouldn’t have had a chance anyway.”

I don’t know what was wrong with him at that point, but he had a lot of other friends in the class, so maybe they came up with the idea together.

So yeah, I think this is the reason why I relate to Vox and wanted him to win, because something similar happened to me and I sympathize with him.

u/Creepy_Employ_3749 — 1 day ago
▲ 147 r/VoxCult

As a regular sinner, would you follow Vox into the revolution?

I know such I post has probaly been made before but I was just curios. To be clear, I think I would follow him. Not (just) because I am a simp, but because I find his mission generally respectable. And if I didn't know that he was doing all of that, just to be the next dictator, witch I wouldn't as a regular sinner, I think his propaganda would work pretty well on me.

u/Creepy_Employ_3749 — 3 days ago
▲ 52 r/AutisticFandom+1 crossposts

So I’ve been thinking about the finale again, and the more I look at it, the less the whole contract logic makes sense to me.

The biggest issue is how inconsistently contracts seem to work. On one hand, the story treats wording and technicalities as extremely important. For example, in the deal involving Vox, something as specific as “laying hands” is enough to instantly break the contract. That tells us that these agreements are strict, literal, and heavily dependent on clearly defined conditions.

But then we have the deal between Alastor and Rosie, and suddenly the logic feels completely different.

From what we’re told, the deal is relatively vague: Alastor becomes the most powerful sinner in Hell in exchange for giving Rosie power over him. Now, if contracts are really as strict and technical as shown elsewhere, this should follow a clear set of rules. Either:

  • Rosie continuously maintains his status as the most powerful (like a “subscription”), or
  • she fulfills her part once, and that’s it.

But neither interpretation fully lines up with what we see.

If it’s a one-time boost, then Vox surpassing Alastor shouldn’t automatically end the deal, because Rosie technically didn’t fail—she did make him the most powerful. The state of the world just changed afterward. In that case, the contract should still be active.

On the other hand, if the condition is ongoing, meaning Alastor has to remain the most powerful, then the moment Vox surpasses him, the contract breaks. But that raises another issue: why wouldn’t Rosie structure the deal in a way that ensures control over him long-term? Given that she’s a demon and the contract is vague, it would be far more logical for her to tie his power directly to herself, forcing dependency. That way, he could never surpass her influence or escape the deal without losing everything.

Instead, the contract seems to sit in this awkward middle ground where:

  • it’s strict enough to break when the condition fails,
  • but not strict enough to clearly define how that condition is maintained.

This becomes even more confusing when looking at the fight itself. Vox is established as the new “most powerful sinner,” yet he struggles against an injured Alastor with a damaged staff—something that supposedly limits Alastor’s power. If the title of “most powerful” is meant to mean anything in a practical sense, especially given that Alastor’s whole motivation revolves around killing, then it should translate into actual combat superiority. But it doesn’t, at least not consistently.

At that point, it starts to feel like the rules are being applied differently depending on what the plot needs:

  • Contracts are strict when the story wants a dramatic loophole
  • but vague when that strictness would create complications

I’m not saying there’s no possible in-universe explanation, but the show leaves so much undefined that you have to fill in a lot of gaps yourself. And when those gaps start to conflict with each other, it breaks the internal logic a bit.

So right now, it feels less like a coherent system and more like contracts work however they need to in the moment, which, for me as a Vox fan, is a bit frustrating. I would really like to know your thoughts on this.

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u/Creepy_Employ_3749 — 20 days ago

So I understand that the whole “contract” thing is the thing in hell, but I have to say, I really hate it when the trope of “oh, didn’t you read the contract? I said THIS and not THAT” is used for key elements. I’m autistic and, of course, I knew this trope, so I predicted that something like that would happen. Still, I hate it.

It also makes Vox look really stupid. He is portrayed as this business genius who is obsessed with Alastor. He has also spent a long time in hell and knows a lot about contracts and the important details. So you would think that the deal with Alastor is the most important thing to him, something he would be careful not to lose under any circumstances.

So yeah, I get that Alastor is a genius too, but I really hate that trope, and Vox had the most justified crashout ever after that.

u/Creepy_Employ_3749 — 26 days ago