u/Cold_Policy1

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I've tried everything and the only conclusion I came to is that it just takes a leap of faith. I asked God for help and didn't get any revelations. I asked hundreds of questions, looked at all the evidence (or lack thereof), and nothing clicked. I don't want to shut my brain off to become religious.

I don't want any more conversations with dawah guys, AI posts, or deflectors giving me non-answer answers.

My goal is to arrive at Islam through logic, because God gave me a fully functioning brain so I'm not gonna insult Him by not using it.

I just recently got banned from another muslim subreddit for asking the same question lol.

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u/Classic-Difficulty12 — 7 days ago

Where is the evidence Gabriel talked to Muhammad? They can't answer this; they will say, "What evidence is convincing to you?"

As if they don't know what I'm talking about. If you don't have strong evidence that it happened, then why should I believe your religion over others?

Why should I believe the Quran is from God? Reading the Quran doesn't confirm if it's from God or not. If everyone who read it was convinced, then maybe I could see that as being from God.

And I hate how they always use sleight of hand. Believing in God is not the same thing as believing in Islam.

They can't talk to someone outside their religion; they can only talk to people already inside their religion.

They also claim I'm using biased logic? That doesn't even make sense. You can't claim my way of thinking is biased because it's not perfect. The whole point of using logic is to be unbiased. God isn't above logic simply because he created it.

On top of that, Islam has no auditing layer. Every other religion can criticize itself.

And Muslims love saying "use your brain" yet get defensive when people ask too many questions.

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u/Cold_Policy1 — 8 days ago

I'm only on this subreddit because I don't think a Muslim can answer these questions without deflecting or ad-libbing.

You're expected to submit fully. If you're not convinced, it's treated as your personal failure ("you just need more faith / more knowledge / more sincerity"). The burden of proof is 100% on you, while the religion gets to stay vague or overly complex whenever it's convenient.

This feels like yet another rabbit hole. I don't want to spend years trying to prove to myself that Islam is real when it doesn't even have objective evidence for its most important claim. That Gabriel was sent to Muhammad from God.

Even if nothing is necessarily wrong with Islam in a vacuum, with an analytic mind you still have to interpret it in a way that isn't destructive eventually. That would get exhausting. That's the whole reason the Taliban exist in the first place. It's trying to be literal and not soften the religion.

I admit I haven't read the entire Quran yet, but I don't think reading this book will suddenly make the religion click for me. I hope I'm wrong.

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u/Cold_Policy1 — 11 days ago