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Taking a break from the AeroPress to test Turkish Coffee water temps (Cold vs Room Temp vs Hot)

We spend a lot of time tweaking water temps for our AeroPress recipes, so I decided to apply that same logic to my traditional Turkish coffee setup.

​Should you actually use cold water from the fridge, or hot water from the kettle? I tested all three with the exact same coffee (medium roast) and stove setting. Here is what happens in the cup. (Check the image for foam differences)

​1. The Cold Start (8°C) - 3:35 min

This is how my grandparents did it, but it actually ruins fresh coffee. It sits on the stove for way too long, baking the grounds and giving you a woody, bitter cup with giant, ugly bubbles.

​2. The Hot Start (60°C+) - 1:40 min

Specialty coffee pros use hot water to speed up the brew. But unless you are using super light, acidic beans, do not do this. Putting a standard medium roast into hot water shocks the coffee and makes it instantly bitter.

​3. The Room Temp Start (22°C) - 2:25 min

The ultimate sweet spot. Using regular, filtered room temp water extracts the coffee gently. It gives you a beautiful, thick microfoam and a soft, syrupy taste without the burnt flavors.

​If you make Turkish coffee at home, skip the fridge and skip the kettle. Room temp water is the easiest and best technique for traditional roasts.

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u/CoffeeTeaJournal — 2 days ago
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Testing Cold vs. Hot water starts for Turkish coffee and why the 60°C "Specialty" rule failed my test

A few days ago, I ran a poll asking what water temperature you use to start a cezve/ibrik brew. The votes were heavily split between Hot Water (to avoid over-extraction) and Room Temp, while the traditional Cold Start approach got the fewest votes.

​I set up a controlled, side-by-side test in my kitchen to see the physical and chemical differences. (Image attached for foam structures).

​The Variables: Fresh, traditional medium-dark roast. 1:10 ratio (7g coffee to 70g water). Identical low-heat setting on the smallest burner to ensure consistent thermal input.

​1. Cold Start (8°C / 46°F) - 3:35 min brew time

The foam was thick but unstable, full of large, aggressive "fisheye" bubbles. Taste-wise, it was woody and had a lingering bitterness. Leaving super-fine grounds on direct heat for almost 4 minutes simply bakes the coffee and causes a chaotic release of CO2.

​2. Room Temp (22°C / 72°F) - 2:25 min brew time

The absolute winner for this roast. It built a silky, homogeneous microfoam. The harsh bitterness was completely gone, leaving a soft, syrupy, and highly balanced body.

​3. Hot Start (60°C+ / 140°F+) - 1:40 min brew time

The foam was very flat and matte. Surprisingly, despite the super-fast brew time, the cup tasted noticeably bitter and hollow.

​The Technical Takeaway (The Roast Level Factor):

Many world champions advocate for a hot water start (60°C+) to aggressively cut brew times to around 1.5 minutes. However, they use ultra-light, highly dense specialty beans (like a washed Ethiopian) that require that thermal push to extract delicate floral notes without baking.

​But if you drop a traditional, more porous medium/dark roast into 60°C water, it experiences severe thermal shock. It extracts way too fast, instantly pulling out harsh tannins before the cup can balance out.

​If you are brewing a traditional roast, Room Temp (2:25 min) is the undisputed sweet spot. What are your thoughts on thermal shock with finer grinds?

u/CoffeeTeaJournal — 2 days ago
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A 2026 prospective cohort study of over 276,000 adults found that moderate daily consumption of tea (2-3 cups) is associated with a 33% lower risk of developing lung cancer, while coffee (2-3 cups) is linked to a 23% lower risk.

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u/CoffeeTeaJournal — 22 hours ago

Why protein powder ruins your coffee and the exact temperature to fix the clumping

I see a lot of people trying to mix whey protein into their morning coffee and ending up with a disgusting clumpy texture. The problem is basic thermal physics.

​Whey protein denatures and starts to cook at around 160°F (71°C). If you dump protein powder into a fresh pour-over brewed at 205°F, you are literally cooking the protein into rubbery chunks.

​To fix this without ruining the coffee workflow, I use two methods with my glass and stainless steel setup. Either let the coffee cool in the carafe to below 150°F before mixing, or create a liquid slurry first. Mix the whey with a splash of cold water in your cup, then slowly pour the hot coffee over it while stirring.

​Has anyone found a specific unflavored protein isolate that dissolves better in hot liquids without altering the tasting notes?

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u/CoffeeTeaJournal — 6 days ago

Are we all just over-extracting our Turkish coffee by starting with cold water?

Hey everyone. I’m currently deep in a cezve/ibrik extraction rabbit hole and trying to settle a massive debate before I finalize a side-by-side brewing experiment.

​If you look at traditional methods, the golden rule is always to start with ice-cold water. The logic is that maximizing the time the slurry spends on the heat builds a much thicker foam and heavier body.

​But from a modern specialty coffee perspective, that prolonged heat exposure seems like a one-way ticket to severe over-extraction. Leaving super finely ground coffee in heating water for 3-4 minutes usually destroys any delicate acidity and just amplifies woody, aggressive bitterness. The specialty approach usually dictates starting with hot water (60°C+) to aggressively cut the brew time down to around 1.5 - 2 minutes.

​I’m currently running a controlled test in my kitchen to track thermal stability, exact brew times, and cup clarity between these methods. But before I post the cupping notes, I wanted to ask the extraction nerds here:

​If you brew Turkish coffee at home, what’s your go-to starting temperature and why? Does the cold water rule actually serve a physical purpose, or is it just an outdated myth used to mask stale, dark-roasted beans?

​Let me know what you think, and drop your specific temps in the comments!

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u/CoffeeTeaJournal — 7 days ago
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A cool guide to why boiling water makes your tea bitter (Extraction kinetics at 80°C vs 100°C)

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