u/Cililians

I made a similar post here the other day, but it got lost in the void...

I posted in a different group, a near death experience group the other day, about desiring luxurious things in the afterlife and how I hoped we could have beautiful mansions and extravagant things, delicious foods and wonderful travel destinations in heaven.

I assumed this was a universal desire, since the vast majority of us do enjoy nice things like that... things that are out of reach for the majority of us while we live here on earth. Unfairly so. It's greatly unfair that only the richest get to enjoy the most beautiful travel destinations on earth, and live in their dream homes.

But in the group I posted this in, I got absolutely swarmed by people calling me materialistic and acting like I was greedy and shallow, and not spiritual or such. Just people talking down to me, because I expressed wanting to enjoy beautiful things basically...

It was very silly, I assumed people understood what I was talking about, but no, I was just a shallow greedy person for even asking this question over there... They acted like I literally wanted to sit on a big pile of money in the afterlife, just wallowing in greed for no reason.

NO of course not! I was trying to say that I hoped we could all live our dream lives and be in gorgeous and beautiful place, such as a big mansion or a stunning beach, but those are all things that only rich people with money can access here on earth...

What on earth is "shallow" or bad about wanting to be on some gorgeous beach in a nice mansion eating lobster?

If "evolving spiritually" somehow means to "ascend" so you are just a floating consciousness in a blank white room doing literally nothing all day without a body, that's HELL and I would rather stay "unevolved" and primitive in my mansion with my lobster if that is the case...

We were made as human beings to enjoy beautiful things, fine art, luxury, beautiful buildings and delicious foods. (sex too, most of us) and that isn't shallow or "materialistic" or bad at all.

Just I hope the afterlife is full of these things, that everyone who is there can actually get these things, which would be actually fair for once and that it would be without suffering, for example no lobster having to actually suffer for it. I hope I still feel like myself, just healthier and better, but still have all my desires and personality I have now, so I can enjoy actually living in a limitless beautiful world full of wonders... How could one even enjoy all those fantastic things in a perfect heavenly world, if suddenly we are like monks who don't even enjoy or want anything?

One of the worst periods of my life, my biggest trauma was when I was so severely depressed and drugged up on psych meds that I was like an empty, ego-less and anhedonic shell of a person. I HAVE experienced what it is like, having absolutely no desires, no feelings, complete apathy and no sense of personality. It's not some "ascended" state, it was pure hell and I never, ever want to return to such a state. There is nothing glorious or great about it, it's just torture being alive and conscious like that. Having personality, desires and feelings is what makes being alive and conscious bearable.

I am not some greedy awful "materialistic" person for hoping heaven is full of these things, huge personalised castles and gorgeous beaches like I visited in Thailand. And the people in that other group talking down to me are not any more spiritually advanced than I am, like what even is the point of getting to go to a perfect heaven if it has literally nothing, what do you even want??

And I am by no means wealthy right now, I think being very wealthy on earth is largely immoral because of the vast poverty and suffering here. But if it were without suffering like in heaven and fully ethical, I would love the chance to live like that.

Hey, I am a 31 year old woman. I was talking to my mom on the phone, we have a good relationship, and I was talking about the tattoo I was planning to get, and she ended up insisting on sending me a few hundred to get it done. She sometimes sends me money throughout the month, she always insists on it. I am not very well off, I grew up with undiagnosed autism and a ton of serious mental health issues and never really got my feet under myself properly as a result. My parents are better off, have a paid off house and college degrees, but I still always feel embarrassed but she insists it's all right and such. I just feel embarrassed still, is this considered normal or am I just being a bum accepting her helping me out? What do you all think, is this morally wrong or such?

I am very aware that this question may come off as privileged or such, I am well aware that many people don't have parents that have the chance to help out and times are hard and such am not trying to sound tone dead or anything like that am just asking respectfully if this is considered normal or bad or something. I am extremely isolated and have a bad sense of what's normal.

Tonight I realised I was lucid dreaming, and I was feeling a bit... you know... and I thought, hey this is a dream, I can do whatever I want. And I found a man in the dream, and got on top of him, but he just had this annoyed and weirded out expression so I just got off him again. So I was in the dream running around, trying to find someone good looking, and then I found it. But then, my parents showed up in the dream staring at me, so I couldn't do anything and they wouldn't go away, it was literally like I was being blocked or something. And this always happens to me, it's ridiculous and stupid, why does this happen? Is it like the guardian of the gooner threshold or something?

I feel like many of us have heard this theory at one point, it's sometimes said or theorised that those people who have never broken a bone are somehow divinely protected, or that instead they will face significant mental or emotional challenges instead. That the spirit will break instead or they are somehow protected from bodily harm to balance things out or something like that. What do you all think of this theory, do you think there could be something to it, and that angels are somehow protecting people like this or it could be true?

I'm thinking about the worst people on the planet in my eyes, billionaires. They are the most selfish, insanely greedy disgusting people alive in my opinion. They have more wealth than they could spend in a thousand lifetimes, and still just continue to screw over every other person alive for their own disgusting greed and ego.

Meanwhile, I, a "nobody" once spent my last dollars on buying a stranger a sandwich because they looked to be in need. People with no power, and nothing do way more than them, and actually try to help people and spread joy while rich people don't even try.

Yeah, I later found out I had been scammed and taken advantage of. It was a known scammer but at least I tried right? Meanwhile the most powerful people on earth do absolutely nothing with their wealth while a huge part of humanity suffers and dies from poverty and suffering.

They have all the power in the world yet only use it to create abuse islands and build themselves private yachts bigger than the Titanic, while their employees are forced to pee in bottles at work slaving away and suffering. Rich people here on earth are at the top of the pyramid while we are alive, is there any type of justice for these type of greedy jerks when we are in the afterlife? What happens to them when they reach the afterlife where money and social status does not matter like it did here on earth?(I assume)

I am not a hateful person, but yeah I actually really do hate these people and the insane suffering they cause every single living thing on this planet. They are the reason the world is so messed up basically, they destroy everything in their path and deliberately hold humanity back so they can keep control and be on top.

I am not trying to "toot my own horn", just I truly believe that today, I would be a world famous artist, or well known and established if I had not been put on psych meds as a young adult and had gotten actual real help.

When I was around 17 I got put on my first antidepressants, and throughout the years I was put on more psych meds even if they only made me even worse, they never even fucking worked, yet I was just put on higher doses because "I was still suicidal". Excuse me, shouldn't it be common fucking sense that if I am still suicidal on them that they aren't even fucking working???

Just, the things I have survived are insane, I should absolutely be dead right now and if I had died back then it would 100% have been the fault of medical negligence. But nobody would have ever known that, it would have just been counted as a "suicide from depression", nobody would have connected the dots. Just how many suicides are a result of medical negligence, and the psych meds themselves? They made me so insane and ill, the danger I was in back then is unbelievable. I only started self harming after being put on them, the apathy added on top of being suicidal is insanely dangerous, all human instinct and fear got removed from me chemically, so there was absolutely no fear instinct anymore stopping me from seriously harming myself. I only somehow survived, because through the mental fog I saw my little brother and parents, knowing how devastated they would be burying their daughter... and big sister...

But I was just an absolutely brilliant artist when I was young, I started creating entire worlds in my head when I was six, drawing them and making comics. A huge reason that drives artists, is the human sexuality too, drawing nsfw art, I was completely castrated and lost ALL human drive and motivation, became an unfeeling zombie for most my 20's, when I would have been otherwise practicing and developing my art...

I can just imagine what I could have been, all the lost potential, if I had not taken these goddamn drugs so early... I am still just an empty shell of what I was once, my brain is foggy and I can't fucking create and imagine or think like I did once...

Just, psychiatry has taken everything from me. I am on disability today, with ptsd and trauma that would have killed almost anyone, it destroyed my fucking life, and nobody understands it and nobody fucking gets it. And doctors never took any responsibility or even listened to me, my real abusers... And I also found out on my own, that the whole time I was on these meds I was basically dying from anemia, which was probably causing my depression in the first place...

I believe in the common belief here on this subreddit in particular, that the afterlife is fantastic and amazing, and we still feel physical. But why are some NDE so different, as in they describe it like they are suddenly just pure consciousness and don’t care about their loved ones at all anymore, and have no desires?

It just sounds like the worst outcome for me, I don’t want to be some zen entity with no desires or care, what’s the point of even living if you don’t care or even enjoy/want anything??

Yeah, I hope I will still be myself, but actually get anything my heart desires when in heaven, that would be great.

Why do you all think people see such different things in NDE?