u/Cernuunnos3

Hello all,

In the search for my next car I've decided to do a breakdown on the CO2e emissions for the following cars: Prius (current car), RAV4 Hybrid, RAV4 PHEV, and Model Y.

Note: this only factors in fuel costs, not manufacturing.

Prius

  • (20 lb CO2e / gal) / (50 mpg) = 0.4 lb CO2e / mile
  • Over 200,000 miles ("lifetime") = 40 tons CO2e

Rav4 Hybrid

  • (20 lb CO2e / gal) / (40 mpg) = 0.5 lb CO2e / mile
  • Over 200,000 miles ("lifetime") = 50 tons CO2e

Rav4 PHEV (2024)

  • Supposing 80% EV - commute within range
  • RAV4 efficiency = 42 mile range / 18.1 kWh battery = 2.32 mi / kWh
  • At night, (likely charging time) grid is roughly 60% natural gas (ISO NE)
  • 1 therm natural gas produces
    • 11.7 lb CO2e (EPA)
    • 29.4 kWh of energy
    • Therefore 0.4 lb CO2e / mile
  • (0.2) (20 lb CO2e / gal) / (38 mpg) = 0.105 lb CO2e / mile (gas)
  • (0.8) (0.4 lb CO2e / mile) / (2.32 mi / kWh) * 0.6 * 1.1 (losses) = 0.09 lb CO2e / mile
  • Total Emissions (Gas + EV) = 0.20 lb CO2e / mile
  • Over 200,000 miles ("lifetime") = 20 tons CO2e

Tesla Model Y

  • (0.4 lb CO2e / kWh) / (3.5 mi / kWh) * 0.6 * 1.1 = 0.08 lb CO2e / mi
  • Over 200,000 miles ("lifetime") = 8 tons CO2e

Comparision & Takeways

  • RAV4 PHEV produces anywhere from 25% - 105% (if never charged) of RAV4 Hybrid emissions
  • Model Y produces 84% less emissions than RAV4 hybrid and 60% less than RAV4 PHEV given 80% EV time.

US Average yearly mileage US is 12000 miles.

US Average CO2e emissions per capita is about 15.4 tons.

  • Prius > 2.4 tons per year
  • Rav4 Hybrid > 3 tons per year
  • Rav4 PHEV > 1.2 tons per year
  • Tesla Model Y > 0.5 tons per year

Hopefully this helps someone when they make a choice.

For me I'll probably go with a RAV4 PHEV for my next car. Living in Maine, the charging network isn't as widespread as I'd be comfortable with as I like to explore, hike, and kayak. Maybe after I reach 200,000 miles on the RAV4 then I'll reassess the charging network in Maine.

I'll look into the manufacturing emissions but I believe they are harder to analyze.

Thanks for reading. Best of luck.

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u/Cernuunnos3 — 15 days ago