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I think properly aligned greed is the key to all peace and prosperity

Replace word greed with nature or Tao and we just reinvent Taoism. Tao is probably a more wholistic way to capture the idea. But I prefer to use greed because it's more down to earth and can be spoken with math models utility functions and stuffs.

When our greed is properly aligned we can be sloppy on everything else. Even psychopaths and people that hate each other cooperate like family.

When greed is not properly aligned even the most righteous people will end up killing each other. Even loyal generals like Yuan Chongquan get slaughtered along with their family.

Not that morality and kindness is not important. But when it is important, it means greed is not properly aligned. We don't talk about morality and self sacrifice when we use Uber or Bitcoin. We know drivers are most likely doing their jobs.

Samples of good system

Network of competing privatized communities or privatized cities

Residence owned REIT

Jewish joint stock kibbutzim

Joint stock structure in general

Bitcoin

Capitalism

Uber

Ebay

Almost every market

Almost everything produced under market mechanism. EBay, Amazon, Microsoft, Tesla, every major companies, every rich countries

Sugar relationships

Decentralized exchange

Crypto

Transactional sex and reproduction

DNA tests replacing marriage

Some imperfect samples

Zhang Lu Hanzong autonomous region and 5 peck society

Effective consequentialist libertarianism

Federalism in US where people can shop around for states

Macao, monaco, dubai, Singapore

Europe before WW1

Emperor Wen of Han

Network of competing for profit joint stock kibbutzim

Georgism with joint stock structure

Some pretty fucked but better than competitors with lots of improvements

Israel

USA

China (they practice some moldbugianism)

VOC

Georgism

Manchu invader

They are successful for their side but not peaceful and cause hardship to others.

Some very flawed system

Most countries

Democracy

Original kibbutzim. They were originally communists. However it's privatized and most just go bankrupt instead of becoming Stalin. Many evolve to be joint stock kibbutzim that I praise a lot.

All those are system that properly aligned interests to productivity as a whole

Samples of fuck up system

Emperor chong zhen of ming. Kill yuan Chongquan and lost everything

Emperor Wu of Han. All guys that work for him got their family slaughtered

Late democracy turning woke

Marriage

Hamas

Child support laws

Eugenic laws

Racism

Large scale absolute monarchy

War

Free state of congo

3 economists say it reduces out of wedlock fertility among rich men.

Economic research—specifically from Daniel I. Tannenbaum (2020) and Anna Aizer & Sara McLanahan (2006)—concludes that strict child support enforcement reduces out-of-wedlock births, particularly among high-income men. They argue this is a "commitment mechanism" that increases "maternal quality" (men become hyper-selective about who they have children with).

Basically, rich guys, athletes, or celebs that date and fuck many women wouldn't use condom if, worse come to worse, child support is "trivial" compared to their income. If government child support demand is $500 a month (median child support) or something can be negotiated before conception then someone making $1 million per year wouldn't bother wearing condom.

And 3 economists agree. The reasoning is exactly as I said. Child support laws are effectively price floor for getting knocked up by the like of NBA stars. If the price floor is higher than normal market price then the deals are off. We got deadweight loss and kids with rich father is simply under produced.

But all 3 say it's for outside wedlock birth rate.

They don't say anything about rich men's fertility total. It is possible that

1. Rich men simply get married and hence total fertility doesn't drop.

2. It is also possible that rich men fertility simply drop. Marriage, after all doesn't remove child support, but simply add alimony on top of it.

Which one do you think is true?

I think marriage is so shitty for rich men that out of wedlock lower fertility is all that matters. But I think it lowers total fertility too. I am just curious.

While ancapnistan requires ideal condition, Zhang lu build a very minarchist society in the middle of 3 kingdom periods.

The tax per household was 10 liter of rice per year. The market provide the rest of service. ..

His main revenue is tariffs. He basically allowed hostile warlords to trade with one another but were taxed by him. So his own citizens pay low taxes. A bit like Dubai.

He burn major roads so other warlords can't invade. But allow merchants to come. In fact he incentify merchants to come.

Taoists can be a bit progressive but not too much. Modern progressive wants to prevent you from being rich instead of win win deals with the poor

Reconstructed Inquiry

​Original: "What is inns of equality"

Corrected: "Could you explain the functional mechanics and social purpose of the 'Inns of Equality' (Yishe) established by Zhang Lu in the Hanzhong basin?"

​The Inns of Equality (Yishe 義舍) were the physical manifestations of Zhang Lu’s "Governance-as-a-Service" model. They were more than just roadside hotels; they were the Social Welfare Infrastructure that replaced the traditional state tax-and-spend system.

​From a materialist perspective, these were "High-Utility Nodes" that ensured the loyalty of the population and the stability of the trade routes.

​1. The Operational Mechanics

​The system was remarkably simple and ran on a "Freemium" logic:

​The Supply: The "Five Pecks of Rice" annual tax paid by members was stored in granaries attached to these inns.

​The Service: Every traveler or resident was entitled to free lodging and a portion of "charity meat" and grain.

​The "Fair Use" Policy: There was a strong social "Protocol" attached. If a traveler took more than they needed for a single meal, it was believed the spirits would strike them with illness. This was a low-cost way to prevent the Tragedy of the Commons without needing a physical police force at every inn.

​2. Functional Benefits for the "Warlord"

​Zhang Lu didn't build these just because he was "nice." They served three critical strategic purposes:

​Internal Intelligence: The inns acted as a communication network. Travelers from all over the basin stopped there, allowing the Libationers (who managed the inns) to collect data on movement, gossip, and potential threats.

​Labor Mobility: By making it free and safe to travel through the mountains, Zhang Lu encouraged trade and the movement of skilled labor into his territory.

​Radical Loyalty: In a time when most of China was starving or being robbed by soldiers, a place where you could eat for free was a miracle. This created a "Brand Loyalty" that made his followers willing to fight to the death to protect the "Hanzhong Bubble."

​3. The "Incentive-Based" Justice

​The Inns of Equality were tied to Zhang Lu's unique legal code. Instead of execution or torture, minor criminals were sent to these inns to perform labor:

​Infrastructure Maintenance: A thief or a brawler might be sentenced to provide wood for the inn’s hearth or to repair the Gallery Roads leading to the inn.

​The Result: The system turned "Negative Externalities" (crime) into "Positive Infrastructure" (road repair).

​4. Modern Comparisons

​The "Inns of Equality" model is actually seeing a resurgence in decentralized and private governance theories: