u/Busy-Agent-8380

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Hey yall. Recently my airline I’m hired on by requested I get 100 hours of actual ifr. They gave me a 15k bonus that I’d have to payback if I wanted to find another airliner so I think my best idea at the moment is to take that money and buy this time.
I’m based in Oklahoma so there’s no chance of me getting actual in the summer time so I’ve started thinking about taking trips to the Washington/Oregon area and trying to build my IFR time that way

Anybody know of good IFR equipped rentals (preferably 172 G1000s) that are available for long rental periods or any pilots looking to split that time with me???

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u/Busy-Agent-8380 — 14 days ago
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What’s up yall. I’m an instructor who got onboarded to the envoy cadet program last spring. I absolutely love this company, got benefits, a bonus and even a Veterans Day challenge coin so I’m absolutely in love with what this company is and want to end up here for my full regional time.

Last month I hit my ATP hours and emailed to start onboarding. I did my drug test and all the paperwork and last week I got a call. The call was from Envoy saying the Captains Review Board reviewed my file and think I need to get 100 hours of Actual IMC time before I can start training… I thought it was surely a miscommunication but I confirmed the other day that that’s exactly what my file says. My resume is nothing crazy impressive. Failed instrument stage 1 and 2 for ground knowledge and the instrument checkride on the oral for not knowing what contact approach minimums were (this was during COVID so all training was online so my ground knowledge was TERRIBLE because I was just a bum student then) I did fail my multi checkride on the single engine approach also which definitely is being seen as an instrument failure of course.

So obviously my resume isn’t too impressive but I have friends who are going through training with multiple instrument failures and on the flight portion too and didn’t have any issue with CRB.

Every coworker and envoy friend has a jaw dropping reaction to what I’ve been told. Has anybody been told something crazy like this recently? I’m in Oklahoma so the amount of time it would take to get the 70 actual I need would be 1-2 years. (I’m a gold seal instructor so my school only wants me to teach CFI so I can’t even get IFR students)

Does anybody have any recommendations? Should I see if I can ask and try to go through CRB again with an updated resume showing my gold seal and success as an instructor? It’s just so frustrating watching people with similar resumes go off to the airlines while I’m being told my ground knowledge was bad when I was 19 (currently 24) so I need to fly IFR the next 2 years when there’s captains there that don’t even have that time

Any advice would be greatly appreciative, I love this company and really don’t want to apply elsewhere but it seems it’d be easier to go to republic and then just jump over

EDIT: Didn’t expect this post to be taken this seriously so let me just clarify some things because wow this got mixed reactions. I didn’t come here to mope and complain. Just wanted to see if anybody else has been told this before by a regional and if it’s realistic. Nobody has ever left my program with near that much actual in probably the entire history of the program.

When I say I’m not scared of actual I’m literally just saying I have no issue with getting actual time but my minimums are pretty high since I’m with a student and don’t want to break SOPs so especially in tornado valley it’s difficult to find a “good” IFR day

I’m well aware my failures matter but just surprised to see this request when coworkers with more instrument failures went through just fine.

I really love to see an airline care about failures and make a solution to fixing said failure. We all know every NTSB report starts with looking at the pilots failures and how it was over looked so it’s definitely nice to see the company caring about stuff like that. Just again, have seen double instrument failures go through with less than 20 actual.

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u/Busy-Agent-8380 — 16 days ago