u/Beno10k

I personally dont know if homelander can do anything to this thing

With people doing crazy calcs about certain characters, ultimos being a character seen as capable by ben 10000 and the fact that ben and vilgax especially got 10x stronger in alien force vilgax using 9 other stolen powers before even trying to fight ultimos though it was easier than he thought it would be, i think as a superman stand in hes certainly slept on and id like to know where people think hed stand in a fight with some of the viltrumites, is bens verse really that much higher than invincibles, does he lose to mark or is this closer than most fights between these verses?