u/Beautiful-DyzKH0rd

So Jessie Gender came out with a new video on how liberals (especially liberal Hollywood) tends to ruin everything. And they actually had a whole section where they shit on some well-known Tankies, including Revolutionaryth0t and Second Thought. It was absolutely fantastic to hear them put them on blast but then they immediately ruined the ride with something they said after they called out Revolutionaryth0t for defending/downplaying the Soviet Union. Something that just absolutely irked me:

“The global rise of fascism and conservatism in the 1930s certainly didn't help queer people at all. So, the Soviet Union was regressive in its criminalization of gay men, obviously, but certainly not unique, which is true.
But by ending her video there, it helps to soften her critique of Soviet repression. Again, we see a similar dynamic of how anti-fascism is used to soften actual criticism of other systems.

And to be absolutely clear here, because I know it will be uh taken and used out of context, I am absolutely not dragging revolutionary thought here, nor second thought for that matter. I think revolutionary thought especially is great. I occasionally disagree with her conclusions when she leans more state communist than my anarchist gremlin instincts ever want to be. But she's still worth engaging with because I think her analysis is quite good and because by engaging with people who disagree with me like that is how liberation movements grow through disagreement and discussion, not ideological fan clubs screaming at each other across the internet. Ultimately, if we're going to be organizing against not just fascism, but the ways in which the liberal state fails our communities, we're going to be working with people who we don't always agree with.”

Like… ARE YOU SHITTING ME?!?!?!?

You just put liberals on blast for all the compromise and civility politics bullshit they like to spew out, AND HERE YOU ARE DOING THR EXACT SAME WITH THE EFFING CAMPISTS!

Jessie, what the actual hell are you doing?!?!?! Do you really think you’re gonna build coalitions with people that idolize “leftists” and “revolutionary leaders” that murder, oppress, and silence anyone who remotely disagrees with them (I.e just look up what Lenin did on the Red Terror)?!?!?

Also about your whole: “by engaging with people who disagree with me like that is how liberation movements grow through disagreement and discussion, not ideological fan clubs screaming at each other across the internet.“

JESSIE! THAT’S LITERALLY WHAT CAMPISTS ARE! AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ALWAYS WILL BE: AN IDEOLOGICAL FAN CLUB (though more like a cult honestly) THAT SCREAMS AT EVERYONE THAT DOEZN’T CONFORM TO THEIR DOGMA!

And it’s absolutely hilarious that you think we should tolerate the Campists who disagree with us when they have made it clear time and time and time and time again they will not tolerate anyone who disagrees with them.

Yeah, it’s not like they‘ve demonized and led witch hunts against any leftist, Marxist, socialist, or anarchist that calls out their blatant hypocrisy!!!

It’s not like they have and are going out of their way to demonize every protest and revolution against regimes they defend as “colour revolution” or CIA/Mossad coups.

It’s not like they repeatedly deny and justify the atrocities and genocides against groups and communities like the Uygurs, Kurds, etc!!!!

Clearly the revolution can only succeed if we tolerate the hypocritical asshats who wipe their sorry asses with revolutionary values at every fucking turn and HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THEY WILL NOT TOLERATE US!

Ooh, and while we’re at it, I heard Andrew Tate called out Israel’s genocide against Palestine, so why don’t we give a space for him and his personality cult as well?!

P.S. Yeah sorry about that whole crashout. I’m just EXTREMELY disappointed in them and their whole “Let’s be civil with the (red) fascists” bullshit.

u/Beautiful-DyzKH0rd — 17 days ago

i’m looking for some decent sources, info, and research on the authoritarianism of North Vietnam and what the regime committed after reunification (and yes, I know it wasn’t as bad as say the Khmer Rouge or South Vietnam for that matter).

As you would expect, I’m worried I’m gonna come across liberals, conservatives, and centrists who exaggerate the crimes the Vietnamese state, and of course, campists and tankies who downplay, deny, or celebrate them.

As I said, just wondering if there are some good non-tankie, non-liberal, non-right-wing sources on North Vietnam authortarianism!

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u/Beautiful-DyzKH0rd — 18 days ago