u/Atrocious-Baby

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Basically what the title says, this is just me explaining how I grind for hyper Tanga and Kasib berries in the dlc. This isn't about how to get your first Tangas and Kasibs, but is more centered around once you have already gotten your first few and are now in the cycle of resetting 8x Kasib donuts for Item Power: Berries 3 and Big Haul 3 and actually going out into the distortions to collect more berries.

First, one quick thing about the donuts you use when grinding for berries. I would really recommend resetting for berries and big haul 3, but you don't absolutely HAVE to. (Resetting for big haul and berries 3 on one donut is said to take approximately 20-30 minutes per donut. I've gone hours without getting one, and I've also gotten it back to back. Resetting for donuts is best when you have something else you're doing in the meantime, like watching TV or playing a different game.) You can settle for a donut with a level 3 power and a level 2 power, but I personally recommend just biting the bullet and resetting for berries 3 and big haul 3, especially if you're using the 8x Kasib recipe. (My mentality is that if you're using 8 of some of the best berries in the game, why would you waste them on lv 2 powers instead of going for lv 3?) If you're not going for level 3 powers on both, Big Haul is more important to have at level 3 than Item Power: Berries is. Big Haul increases the amount of items you get per ball, whereas Item Power: Berries only increases the chance of your game rolling berries from the loot table. (Berries are already relatively common in the loot tables. You can find the loot tables on Serebii) So, you would actually get more berries from a Big Haul lv3 Item Power: Berries lv2 donut than you would from an Item Power: Berries lv3 Big Haul lv2 donut. Austin John Plays made a YouTube video a while back where he compared berry farming in different sized distortions with varying levels of big haul and item power berries, and I remember the Big Haul lv3 Item Power: Berries lv3 donut in a large hyperspace distortion just having an astronomically higher amount of berries compared to everything else.

Once you have your maxed out berry hunting donuts, you can start going into large 4-star distortions on the map. (Side note: large 4-star distortions always have more than 1 type, so when you're looking for them on the map, instead of hovering over every 4-star distortion to check the size, just look to see if there are multiple little type icons under the distortion icon. It doesn't save a ton of time, but in this super grindy dlc, I like to save all the time I can) Obviously, fly to a pokemon center (I like to heal, but I know people say you don't really have to) to put down a backup save before you go in. This is important because there is a chance that you can't get to the golden ball before the timer runs out (has happened to me multiple times), or you get quests that take too long/are hard to complete (has also happened to me multiple times, but much less often than the former has). Once you've loaded in, you should check the task list in the top right to make sure they're all decently do-able for you. You can reset from backup if you don't like the quests you got. (The quests and the pokemon spawners will change when you go back in, but the location of the entrance portal will stay the same. The spawners stay in the same location on the map, but the pokemon will be shuffled. Good for if you spawn in on top of a bunch of aggressive pokemon or something.) I always reset if I get the "Catch 9 Species of Pokémon" task, and I'm in a distortion where there aren't any pokemon with multiple different forms present. (Different forms of the same Pokémon count as different "species" for this quest in the game.) I also see people complain about the "Pick Up 20 Sparkling Items" quest, but I haven't found it difficult to complete in my experience. When you reset the game, (regular reset, not from backup) the sparkling items move around when you load back in. I don't know if just the locations of the remaining ones change, or if they're completely refreshed every time you close and open the game, but I've never had trouble completing the "Pick Up 20 Sparkling Items" quest.

Once you're in and have started to run around completing tasks, find your first floating pokeball, and save in front of it. (with your ball-getting mon -probably Lucario- out. If it's not out, you waste time with the animation that plays when you send them out, and if it's already out when you save, it'll already be out when you reset the game.) Saving in front of every floating pokeball lets you reset if you don't get the desired (Tanga and Kasib) berries out of it. Different balls give different berries, and at different amounts, so here's what I reset for: small balls - 1 Tanga and 1 Kasib, large balls - 1 to 2 Tanga and 1 to 2 Kasib (They can give 2 of each, but I find that the chance of getting that is low enough that I don't want to spend the time resetting for that. Instead, I settle for at least 2 of one berry, and 1 of the other one. Occasionally, I do get 2 of both from them, but not very often.), golden balls - 2 Tanga and 2 Kasib. The golden ball has better rates for Tangas and Kasibs than the large balls do, even though they have the same maximum number of them you can get from one ball, so I reset to get two of both instead of three between the two of them that I do for the regular large Pokeballs.

Also, I always complete the tasks to get the golden pokeball, as it has the best rates for Tangas and Kasibs. (Again, you can see the loot tables on Serebii. I just Google "floating Pokeballs hyperspace distortions" and it shows up as one of, if not the, first results.) I will reset from backup and restart the entire distortion if I can't get to the golden ball in time. I also reset the distortion if I miss any of the large balls, but I'm fine missing one or two of the small balls.

Resetting the floating Pokeballs isn't strictly necessary for farming berries, but it allows you to get more of the specific berry you're going for, essentially focusing on specific berries while you're farming. If you do try this, you'll notice a significant difference between your Tangas and Kasibs and the rest of your hyper berries, especially if you do this for several distortions in a row. In the screenshot of my current inventory, I have, very roughly, about 100 more Kasib and Tanga berries than the rest of them. (Theoretically, as my inventory is off because of reasons I explained in the next paragraph.)

I've attached a Picture of my inventory right now as of writing this. (I'm in the middle of the actual berry farming part of the cycle, but I'm running out of berry farming donuts, so I gotta buckle down and reset for more soon) However, my inventory is really wonky and not representative of the actual proportion of berries I'm getting from this. Usually when I make donuts, I go through all the good berries and make donuts with them, so they're all pretty low when I go start farming berries again. The last time I went and made donuts, I only used my Kasib berries for maxed out berry farming donuts, so pretend that my number of Tanga berries is closer to my number of Kasib berries, and the rest of them are lower by about a third (100), and that's more accurate to the actual numbers I'm getting from doing this. (I do use the Coba, Payapa, and Charti berries for donuts, but I use those for the small and medium 4-star distortions. I still reset the balls like I normally would when actually berry farming, but I'm more lenient on what I get from them. I reset until I get at least 1 Tanga or Kasib from the small balls, at least 2 Tanga and/or Kasib from the large balls, and at least 3 Tanga and/or Kasib from the golden ball.) The current inventory I have is what I've gotten after 13 large 4-star distortions with maxed out donuts. So, if I do a little bit of math really quick, we can see that I got a net profit of 182 Kasib berries from my 13 8x Kasib donuts. (13 8x Kasib donuts is 104 kasib berries, plus the 6 leftover I had beforehand is 110, and 292 - 110 is 182)

Some other tips:

I also use Lucario like everybody else recommends, but mine has a different moveset from what I've seen others use. I have Vacuum Wave, Water Pulse, Metal Claw, and Psychic on my Lucario. Vacuum Wave is a priority move with super short cooldown, and is fighting type to deal with boulders. Water Pulse is to deal with piles of sludge. Metal Claw is to deal with the brambles. And finally, Psychic is one that everybody else already recommends to have on it, as it can get anything you can target, even if Lucario is blocked from the ball, or it can't get to whatever wonky spot it picks to use the move. This moveset allows Lucario to both be the ball-getting mon and the obstacle remover at the same time. The only issue it has is that it has trouble knocking things out, so you do have to have other mons for that, but overall, it does cut back on time wasted switching between pokemon to clear obstacles for tasks. 8 minutes seems like plenty of time going in, but you'll always end up rushing at the end, trust. I also have leftovers on it, as it's not going to be fighting much, if at all, so the leftovers allow it to heal off whatever damage it took while you're running away from aggressive pokemon. It cuts back on healing resources used in exchange for being slightly annoying having to hear the healing sound effect every so often, but if it you can tolerate it, I say go for it. Otherwise, I'd put an assault vest on it to at least try to minimize the healing resources it needs from whatever damage it sustains from all of the aggressive mons they stuffed into hyperspace. (Seriously, why are like all of the hyperspace exclusive mons aggressive? It's like they took the Paras of PLA and made the Pokémon Legends ZA DLC: Paras Dimension. Good christ.)

Climbing ladders and falling will send you back to running instead of dashing, so I try to roll off of ledges instead of just dropping off of them if I can. However, if you're rolling off of a ledge that's bigger than the distance you can jump up on the roofs, you'll start falling, and will be set back to running instead of dashing when you land. It doesn't save a ton of time, but it saves a little bit and streamlines the process a bit more.

It's super annoying when floating Pokeballs spawn really close to aggressive pokemon spawners, so I try to run as close to the ball as I can and then save. Then, you only have to dash a few steps and break the ball, and you can still reset for Tangas and Kasibs. Not a concrete rule, sometimes I don't save and just break the ball and continue to the next one if I'm low on time or if the pokemon are particularly dangerous. I do try to save in front of large balls every time, and I always save in front of the golden ball. It's usually the small balls that I break without saving beforehand if that does happen, but I try to save in front of all floating Pokeballs if I can.

Every time you reset the game, your selected pokeball always gets reset back to the regular Pokeballs, so if you have a quest to catch pokemon, do that before you start resetting the floating Pokeballs, or at least be aware of it before you go to catch anything so that you can prepare beforehand. Also, you should be using repeat balls. This is actually the first game I've started using repeat balls, as I'd gotten by on ultra balls before, but repeat balls are genuinely so much better. Obviously, ultra balls (or net balls or other applicable special condition balls) work best if you haven't caught the specific mon before, but repeat balls are actually king in this game, since you end up catching a ton of Pokemon you won't really care about and will probably release anyway.

That's pretty much all I can remember at the moment. If I remember anything else, I'll try to edit it into the post or comment it under. I'd like to hear from everyone else how they farm berries in the dlc, and if you have any more tips to share. Happy hunting! :)