u/AtomicPhaser

Here are some examples of seemingly random, arbitrary and unprovoked instances where ordinary persons felt extreme pain:

• There are people, who when going to a surgery under general anaesthesia, due to rare medical conditions or doctor mistakes, were actually in consciousness and felt the entire pain of the surgery, but couldn't move or speak. This is extremely painful, if we are to compare levels of pain, it's far more painful than the suffering of Christ on the cross. Because of these cases, I don't have enough faith in God or in medicine to put myself under general anaesthesia, so I would try everything I can to avoid surgeries.
• Gangs like the Mexican cartels practice flaying alive and other medieval-level brutalities.
• Sometimes workers in industrial factories suffer extremely painful and slow deaths with machinery, due to accidents.

While I can find an explanation and some reasoning for moderate levels of pain and suffering, these extreme and arbitrary cases really make it impossible for me to reconcile them with the idea of a loving God.

Also, I consider the concept of physical pain the worst thing that exists, so the possibility of the human body to so easily feel extreme levels of pain is also very troubling. Maybe my tolerance of physical pain is low, but this is not something that I can control, it's a feature of my nervous system.

I asked this many times, and never got a good answer. I am not talking about "regular" evil or suffering in general, but about specific completely arbitrary, random and unprovoked instances of extreme pain, that no person can even imagine.

God shouldn't allow a world where anyone can cause anyone else such extreme levels of physical pain so easily.

Here are some examples of seemingly random, arbitrary and unprovoked instances where ordinary persons felt extreme pain:

• There are people, who when going to a surgery under general anaesthesia, due to rare medical conditions or doctor mistakes, were actually in consciousness and felt the entire pain of the surgery, but couldn't move or speak. This is extremely painful, if we are to compare levels of pain, it's far more painful than the suffering of Christ on the cross. Because of these cases, I don't have enough faith in God or in medicine to put myself under general anaesthesia, so I would try everything I can to avoid surgeries.
• Gangs like the Mexican cartels practice flaying alive and other medieval-level brutalities.
• Sometimes workers in industrial factories suffer extremely painful and slow deaths with machinery, due to accidents.

While I can find an explanation and some reasoning for moderate levels of pain and suffering, these extreme and arbitrary cases really make it impossible for me to reconcile them with the idea of a loving God.

Also, I consider the concept of physical pain the worst thing that exists, so the possibility of the human body to so easily feel extreme levels of pain is also very troubling. Maybe my tolerance of physical pain is low, but this is not something that I can control, it's a feature of my nervous system.

I asked this many times, and never got a good answer. I am not talking about "regular" evil or suffering in general, but about specific completely arbitrary, random and unprovoked instances of extreme pain, that no person can even imagine.

God shouldn't allow a world where anyone can cause anyone else such extreme levels of physical pain so easily.

Here are some examples of seemingly random, arbitrary and unprovoked instances where ordinary persons felt extreme pain:

• There are people, who when going to a surgery under general anaesthesia, due to rare medical conditions or doctor mistakes, were actually in consciousness and felt the entire pain of the surgery, but couldn't move or speak. This is extremely painful, if we are to compare levels of pain, it's far more painful than the suffering of Christ on the cross. Because of these cases, I don't have enough faith in God or in medicine to put myself under general anaesthesia, so I would try everything I can to avoid surgeries.
• Gangs like the Mexican cartels practice flaying alive and other medieval-level brutalities.
• Sometimes workers in industrial factories suffer extremely painful and slow deaths with machinery, due to accidents.

While I can find an explanation and some reasoning for moderate levels of pain and suffering, these extreme and arbitrary cases really make it impossible for me to reconcile them with the idea of a loving God.

Also, I consider the concept of physical pain the worst thing that exists, so the possibility of the human body to so easily feel extreme levels of pain is also very troubling. Maybe my tolerance of physical pain is low, but this is not something that I can control, it's a feature of my nervous system.

I asked this many times, and never got a good answer. I am not talking about "regular" evil or suffering in general, but about specific completely arbitrary, random and unprovoked instances of extreme pain, that no person can even imagine.

God shouldn't allow a world where anyone can cause anyone else such extreme levels of physical pain so easily.

Here are some examples of seemingly random, arbitrary and unprovoked instances where ordinary persons felt extreme pain:

• There are people, who when going to a surgery under general anaesthesia, due to rare medical conditions or doctor mistakes, were actually in consciousness and felt the entire pain of the surgery, but couldn't move or speak. This is extremely painful, if we are to compare levels of pain, it's far more painful than the suffering of Christ on the cross. Because of these cases, I don't have enough faith in God or in medicine to put myself under general anaesthesia, so I would try everything I can to avoid surgeries.
• Gangs like the Mexican cartels practice flaying alive and other medieval-level brutalities.
• Sometimes workers in industrial factories suffer extremely painful and slow deaths with machinery, due to accidents.

While I can find an explanation and some reasoning for moderate levels of pain and suffering, these extreme and arbitrary cases really make it impossible for me to reconcile them with the idea of a loving God.

Also, I consider the concept of physical pain the worst thing that exists, so the possibility of the human body to so easily feel extreme levels of pain is also very troubling. Maybe my tolerance of physical pain is low, but this is not something that I can control, it's a feature of my nervous system.

Here are some examples of seemingly random, arbitrary and unprovoked instances where ordinary persons felt extreme pain:

• There are people, who when going to a surgery under general anaesthesia, due to rare medical conditions or doctor mistakes, were actually in consciousness and felt the entire pain of the surgery, but couldn't move or speak. This is extremely painful, if we are to compare levels of pain, it's far more painful than the suffering of Christ on the cross. Because of these cases, I don't have enough faith in God or in medicine to put myself under general anaesthesia, so I would try everything I can to avoid surgeries.
• Gangs like the Mexican cartels practice flaying alive and other medieval-level brutalities.
• Sometimes workers in industrial factories suffer extremely painful and slow deaths with machinery, due to accidents.

While I can find an explanation and some reasoning for moderate levels of pain and suffering, these extreme and arbitrary cases really make it impossible for me to reconcile them with the idea of a loving God.

Also, I consider the concept of physical pain the worst thing that exists, so the possibility of the human body to so easily feel extreme levels of pain is also very troubling. Maybe my tolerance of physical pain is low, but this is not something that I can control, it's a feature of my nervous system.