u/AstronomerWaste8145

I have a question, namely, I know a TRL calibration requires the line standard to be very close to Zo characteristic impedance (most systems use 50ohms = Zo) and have a phase delay of 20 degrees to 160 degrees phase delay through the line standard. The optimum phase shift is 90 degrees to get the best calibration. I'm assuming that the thru standard is a zero-length direct coupling of both ports.
My question is this: If I attempt to use this line to calibrate across a broad frequency range, I'm wondering if I'll get a usable quality calibration wherever the phase delay is n*90 deg +-70deg where n is odd, e.g. 1, 3, 5 etc..? Most TLR examples cover the case for n=1 only. What if I try n=3 case? Will the "upper band" calibration quality be acceptable if the n=1 band is a good calibration?
Why am I interested in this? Because I want to do a TRL calibration so I can determine the calibration coefficients for a set of existing SOLT calibration standards via measuring them with the TRL calibrated vna. These coefficients basically require one to perform polynomial fits of order 3 or 4 to fit the S-parameters of the open, short, and load standards. I think I can do the required polynomial fits over the n=1 (20-160deg) to n=3 (270deg+-70deg) bands if I ignore the "bad" frequency regions when I do the polynomial fits to get the calibration coefficients of the standards. I'm thinking that the "bad" frequencies won't really be needed to determine the fitting coefficients for the polynomials?
I will likely just use weighting to place more emphasis on the frequencies very near 90deg and 270 deg phase shifts and taper off the weights as the frequencies deviate from the optimum.

Do you think this will work to give me a high-quality set of calibration coefficients?

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u/AstronomerWaste8145 — 16 days ago

I am building an RF test lab for fun and maybe profit. I have a N5230A 20GHz 4-port VNA and I just got a used 3.5mm cal kit, Ceyear 31121 - 62054, from BRL. I have a used Maury Microwave A034B Connector Gage Kit to gage connectors to ensure components don't damage connectors.
The real question concerns verification of 3.5mm calibrations using a used Maury Microwave 8043S15 DC-26.5 GHz, 3.5mm precision 15cm long air line bought on Ebay. I verify my 3.5mm calibrations using a short on the end of the air line and if the ripple is under 0.1dB peak-peak to 20GHz, I consider the calibration to be "good".
If calibrations using my cal kit look "good" then, I'll be confident that I can use my cal kit as a "golden" standard to create low-cost cal kits from used 3.5mm standards that will be used for some of my collaborators.
All my used cal standards and other cables are mechanically checked using my 3.5mm connector gage system. Of course, I thoroughly clean connectors with foam swabs, isopropyl alcohol and inspect them for damage before using.
Is this a good plan or am I being stupid for buying used gear like this? The new stuff is many times more expensive. What is your experience with used cal kits, air lines, and other connectorized accessories? Thanks!

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u/AstronomerWaste8145 — 18 days ago