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Have no problem with daemons physics defying suicide dive? I think it just comes down to rule of cool and personal bias. People who like daemon will forgive the impossibility of the feat because it’s just a cool visual having a dragon rider jump mid air to another one to stab the rider. Well I think a mob of small folk storming the pit to slaughter the weapons of mass destruction that have kept them under the heel of foreign invaders for so long is a cool visual, more than enough rule of cool to make up for a little unrealism. I think people who have such a big problem with it have too much of a personal connection with the Targaryens and the dragons and use unrealism as an excuse to mask the real reason it pisses them off; they cant stomache the thought of the plebeian underclass getting one up on the super special dragon people (Who they self insert as instead of the peasants they would be in that world)

thoughts?

The histories of Asoiaf aren’t pulling from our own history, they’re pulling from the history of fantasy itself, of forgotten sword and sorcery worlds and Wierd tale pulp, where heroes with magic swords save the world from evil wizards, and go on a new adventure with a new woman each week. The heroes and messiahs of asoiafs past are deified protagonists from a bygone age whose adventures became legend and myth and shaped the destiny of the world.  If you want to understand the narritive of ancient planetos and its legendary heroes you have to research the worlds and heroes that inspired George in his childhood. one such is the Conan mythos written by Robert E Howard, with inspirations from HP lovecraft and contributed to by the likes of Lin Carter with his Thongor of Lemuria series who inspired many others to give their hero a magic glowing sword made from star magic like the future thundarr the barbarian series

The timeline of the expanded Thongor/Kull/Conan verse history can be broken up into 3 ages, The lemurian age, The Atlantean age, and The Hyborian age. I will summarize them and point out the connections to George’s lore

The lemurian age (equivalent to pre dawn age Asoiaf); the time of Thungarth the first hero and his legendary star sword, and his descendant Thungor of Lemuria. The most ancient race of man had unique colorful eyes and no one knows their origins https://conan.fandom.com/wiki/Elder_Race . Most of the planet is ruled by giant reptile titans, proto dragons and wyrms https://thongor.fandom.com/wiki/Age_of_ReptilesSome of these evolve into sentient lizard or fish people who build ancient black cities, and they call themselves the dragon kings https://thongor.fandom.com/wiki/Age_of_Dragons The oldest gods are the lords of light, who are good and protect men, and the 3 lords of chaos (including a blood god and fire god) who are evil and favor the lizard people. https://thongor.fandom.com/wiki/Nineteen_Gods Men war with the dragon kings for a thousand years until at last the gods bestow a magic glowing sword called the starsword to a hero named Thungarth. He dies in battle against the lizard men at a black stone fortress but his forces are victorious, and the defeat of the dragon kings brings men into a new golden age https://thongor.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Grimstrand_Firth

Connection to Asoiaf: This is the origin of the great empire of the dawn. A race of superhumans (probably advanced colonists from space) come down and are seen as gods (by the natives of the planet; the hairy Neanderthal like folk, ancestors of the ibbish). The lizard/fish empire is who built the black stone structures and Asshai. They are defeated after a thousand years of war (pearl emporer and the five forts guarding against the lizard raiders in the grey waste) and the first true human civs are raised

The Atlantean age(equivalent to the dawn age up until the long night Asoiaf): The time of the Kull of Atlantis stories. Men travel westward after the thousand years war and expand their empires, establish new cities and cultures and explore far away lands. https://thongor.fandom.com/wiki/Age_of_Men New races are created from intermixing, though most of the elder race of gemstone eyed people eventually return east, the more primitive people taking over the ruins of their western cities. The great empire of the east wanes in power over the millennia, each emporer ruling less territory and living for a shorter time. Then the cataclysm comes https://conan.fandom.com/wiki/Cataclysm

Connection to Asoiaf: This is the era where empty lands are populated by migrants and explorers, who birth new kingdoms and peoples. The era of Garth the green crossing the arm of dorne (in my headcanon he’s the son of Thungarth the pearl emporer who travelled far west to Westeros) of the fisher queens and the diverse barbarian tribes of the grasslands, while the empire of the east still stands. The golden age of heroes. And then the long night happens during the time of bloodstone, the 7th emporer of the dawn thousands of years later

The bloodstone emporer is a reference to Marvels Ulysses bloodstone, who comes across an evil lovecraftian entity encased in a fallen star that grants powers. https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ulysses_Bloodstone_(Earth-616) So the last emporer of the empire of dawn meddles with dark forces from space that causes the long night, and this event gives rise to our next incarnation of the hero with the special sword: azor ahai, the protagonist of the apocalypse 

Here I believe is where thundarr the barbarian comes into play. Inspired by Thungor of Lemuria and thungarths star sword, this cartoon was about a post apocalyptic hero named Thundarr the barbarian, who was granted the “Sunsword” after the world was destroyed when the moon was cracked by a meteor. In the lemuria Stories, thongor must reforge the legendary starsword of his ancient ancestor thungarth to defeat a new threat. This is azor ahai and lightbringer, the new incarnation of man’s first hero in their war against the lizard men, who must reforge legendary lightbringer of his ancient ancestor the pearl emporer to fight against the new threat of the long night. When the long night was ended, the modern age of Asoiaf begins, equivalent to the Hyborian ageof Conan, the old empire is fallen and the new world is savage and primitive once more, the ancient lore mostly forgotten

For your own research 

https://thongor.fandom.com/wiki/Thongor_Wiki

https://thundarr.fandom.com/wiki/Thundarr_the_Barbarian_Wiki

https://conan.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page