u/Andr-s-1467

My newly hired trainer used the throw chain method with my 10 weeks puppy and I don't think it's okay

Hi everyone,

I already posted this post on another sub regarding puppy I received only negative answers. I just stumbled across open dog training and I would like to ask for a second opinion. This is my situation.

I’m looking for some advice regarding my 10 weeks puppy, Zoey (for more context see my previous post [https://www.reddit.com/r/puppy101/comments/1t49bwk/biting\\\_when\\\_is\\\_the\\\_line\\\_crossed/\](https://www.reddit.com/r/puppy101/comments/1t49bwk/biting\_when\_is\_the\_line\_crossed/) ). She was separated from her mother very early, so she never learned proper bite inhibition. It has become a real issue, she has bitten my hands hard enough to draw blood. She also has a habit of chewing on and eating drywall, and sometimes she "challenge barks" at people. She's super lively and smart. She's my first dog so I'm not sure about the best way to make her a good adult dog. Since I have the impression she tends to ignore us and our authority, my bf and I decided to hire a dog trainer. She visited today and introduced the "throw chain" (or training chain) method. She says "No" and makes a sound with a metal chain in her hand and if the dog doesn't stop she drops the chain on the floor to interrupt the behavior with the noise. The method worked, Zoey stopped chewing things and bite way more softly while playing. The trainer told us Zoey was not scared, observing her hand and tail positions, even though she was acting out of character, hiding behind my legs and looking a bit confused. Anyways after a while they cuddled and played together and the dog didn't seem to be scared of the trainer.

However, I’m feeling very conflicted. On one hand, it did work, and after about 10 minutes the trainer left Zoey was back to her usual self, playing and sniffing everything. On the other hand, she looked "shut down" and a bit dull right after the correction, and I’m terrified that she will stop trusting me or become a fearful dog.

We have already tried reverse time-outs but it hasn't been very effective so far for the high-intensity moments.

Has anyone here used the throw chain/sound interruptors? Did it affect your bond with your puppy? Or are there other high-impact (but non-scary) ways to handle a puppy that bites to the point of bleeding and eats walls?

Thank you guys.

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u/Andr-s-1467 — 5 days ago

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for some advice regarding my 10 weeks puppy, Zoey (for more context see my previous post https://www.reddit.com/r/puppy101/comments/1t49bwk/biting_when_is_the_line_crossed/ ). She was separated from her mother very early, so she never learned proper bite inhibition. It has become a real issue, she has bitten my hands hard enough to draw blood. She also has a habit of chewing on and eating drywall, and sometimes she "challenge barks" at people. She's super lively and smart. She's my first dog so I'm not sure about the best way to make her a good adult dog. Since I have the impression she tends to ignore us and our authority, my bf and I decided to hire a dog trainer. She visited today and introduced the "throw chain" (or training chain) method. She says "No" and makes a sound with a metal chain in her hand and if the dog doesn't stop she drops the chain on the floor to interrupt the behavior with the noise. The method worked, Zoey stopped chewing things and bite way more softly while playing. The trainer told us Zoey was not scared, observing her hand and tail positions, even though she was acting out of character, hiding behind my legs and looking a bit confused. Anyways after a while they cuddled and played together and the dog didn't seem to be scared of the trainer.

However, I’m feeling very conflicted. On one hand, it did work, and after about 10 minutes the trainer left Zoey was back to her usual self, playing and sniffing everything. On the other hand, she looked "shut down" and a bit dull right after the correction, and I’m terrified that she will stop trusting me or become a fearful dog.

We have already tried reverse time-outs but it hasn't been very effective so far for the high-intensity moments.

Has anyone here used the throw chain/sound interruptors? Did it affect your bond with your puppy? Or are there other high-impact (but non-scary) ways to handle a puppy that bites to the point of bleeding and eats walls?

I just want to do what’s best for her without breaking her spirit.

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u/Andr-s-1467 — 8 days ago

For more context please read my previous post https://www.reddit.com/r/puppy101/comments/1sxuttq/help_with_my_67_days_puppy_biting_potty_everything/

Short context: on sunday I adopted a rescue pup, she's 2 months old and found abandoned without her mother. She's very lively and difficult to manage, plus it's my first puppy.

This week both my partner and I worked from home so we shared the burden. Yesterday however we had a lot of calls so we didn't manage to enforce naps for the whole afternoon. Plus someone had to come over to fix a blind and she got even more active and biting. She cannot control her bite yet and she focused mainly on my hands and arms, there was no way to calm her till she fell asleep at 10 pm exhausted. We were exhausted too, of course and I was really stressed and in physical pain. After this episode we decided to get in touch with an experienced dog trainer and she's coming to our place next week.

Now, the problem is that this morning my partner had to leave for the weekend for work, he will be back on Monday afternoon and I'll be alone with her. I feel tremendously anxious and she of course senses that. Shortly after he left she settled but suddenly she felt something and stared barking non stop. I switched off all the lights, closed the blinds and put some relaxing music on. After a while she fell asleep on schedule with my enforced naps programme. I just feel so bad because I know I'm agitating her with my anxiety but I cannot really get over yesterday biting and I'm so scared it's going to happen again. Of course I know it's not her fault, she's just a pup and knows no better, I feel guilty and angry with myself for not being able to give her comfort. Please I really really need help.

Edit: spelling

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u/Andr-s-1467 — 14 days ago