u/AlexanderDeGrape

ThermoPriming Seed Germination PawPaw, Max Growth, Plus Improved (Heat & Cold) Tolerance

Soak seeds in 1oz Hydrogen Peroxide to 32oz Distilled Water,
in a sealed container between (36F & 46F) for 48 hours,
in the refrigerator, before planting.
Then germinate in temp controlled heat, well aerated & drained soil.
Anything more concentrated than (1/19) Hydrogen Peroxide is potentially damaging.
(1/32) Hydrogen Peroxide is optimal,
to activate the preprogrammed MEMORY from Mommy, in the seed.

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u/AlexanderDeGrape — 3 days ago
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First genome and transcription factor profile for Asimina triloba, a native North American fruit tree

1 year into the 5 year Asimina triloba Genome Project.
A March 4th 2026 research article.
Seeds are discussed.
Seed control via: CRISPR/Cas9 & TIGR-Tas, are going to become important.
Inserting functional "toggle switches" into the RNA, so a farmer can choose seedless or seeded fruits.
fruits will primarily be seedless unless a farmer is doing breeding.
Scientists are looking for the genes that control seed size, seed development, Allele rejection, etc.
The Parthenocarpic Project changed the group name & main focus for 2 reasons:

  1. Colchicine Danger Level 2) TIGR-Tas will create seedless before we can with Colochine.
    We will still educate on Colchicine, but focus changing to:
    ThermoPriming Breeding, for Zones 4 & 9
    Plus interspecifics
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
u/AlexanderDeGrape — 4 days ago
▲ 35 r/Pawpaws

Autumn Surprise, Other (Crimea & Sochi) Cultivars, plus Eastern Europe private cultivars, Victoria.

Siblings of Vitoria (Krynychka 24-1 & Krynychka 24-2) made it out Jan 2026 to Timothy Lane.
Overview of other Pawpaw (Asimina triloba) Cultivars of Eastern European Selections:
This group of cultivars represents the work of breeders from Sochi (F. K. Ivanenko, D. V. Ksenofontova), Crimea (S. Y. Khokhlov, N. F. Maksimov), and exceptional amateur selections.
Early-Ripening Cultivars
These varieties are the most promising for northern regions, as they mature before the onset of consistent autumn frosts.
Valentina (Sochinskaya-9, Form-9, F-9)
Features: Holds the record for pulp percentage (94%) and extreme sweetness (25.3% sugar).
Fruit: Average weight 146g, maximum up to 243g. Oval/cylindrical shape with dense yellow flesh. Flavor is mild-sweet.
Yield: Up to 29 kg per tree. Tree is medium to tall.
Note: Contains a high number of seeds despite the high pulp ratio.
Sochinskaya-11
Features: A reliable early variety with a well-balanced flavor (18–20% sugar, 0.14% acidity).
Fruit: Average weight 120g, but primary specimens can reach 350g. Seeds are few but large. Greenish-yellow skin with yellow pulp.
Yield: 20–22 kg per mature tree. Tall growth habit.
Mid-Season Cultivars
The optimal choice for temperate climates with a long, warm September.
Viktoria (Victoria)
Features: Selected by the Nikitsky Botanical Garden. Notable for its compact size (approx. 2.5m tall), making it ideal for small gardens. Highly ornamental with golden-yellow autumn foliage.
Fruit: Large fruits up to 380g. Sweet flavor, yellow flesh, sugar content around 16.7%.
Yield: 25–28 kg per tree.
Desertnaya (Dessert)
Features: An open-pollinated seedling of "Form-6," selected in 2003. Known for its high-quality pulp and "classic" good flavor.
Fruit: Weight ranges from 60g to 300g. Pulp makes up 90–92% of the fruit mass. Few seeds (though large).
Yield: Up to 22 kg per tree. Medium-sized tree.
Late-Ripening & Large-Fruited Cultivars
These require maximum "heat units" and a long, warm autumn to reach full potential.
Maksimovskaya-1 (Maximovskaya-1)
Features: Developed by Crimean amateur breeder N. F. Maksimov. The largest-fruited variety in this selection. It is physically distinct with massive leaves (up to 40 cm long).
Fruit: Exceptionally large, reaching a maximum mass of nearly 600g. Excellent flavor with absolutely no bitterness.
Ripening: Gradual ripening from late September through mid-October.
Osenniy Syurpriz (Autumn Surprise, Form-15, F-15)
Features: High productivity but has a specific flavor profile. Found in Sochi in 1996.
Fruit: Average mass 139g, maximum 166g. Creamy, dense, mild-sweet flesh.
Note: Known for a slight bitterness near the skin. Very high yield, ranging from 20 to 36 kg per tree.
Summary and Recommendations:
For Size and Flavor Connoisseurs: Maksimovskaya-1 is the undisputed leader for those seeking the largest fruits and the cleanest tropical taste.
For Small Backyard Orchards: Viktoria is the best choice due to its naturally limited height and decorative value.
For Culinary/Processing Use: Valentina and Osenniy Syurpriz offer the highest yields and significant pulp volumes for processing into purées or desserts.
For Northern Growers: Sochinskaya-11 and Valentina provide the best chance of a successful harvest due to their early ripening windows.
**** Victoria Update ****
Conflicting information coming out of Ukraine from multiple friend sources.
Conflicting pics coming out of Ukraine of Victoria, some looking like blurry pics of cleaned Idaho potatoes!
Claims of Victoria scions making it out & claims of them not making it out.
Multiple claims of scions of Victoria crosses making it out & vetting the info proving scam.
Retired Agronomist (Славик Савенко) claims was not registered with Ukraine as claimed, but is real.
And has a friend Yurii Isachenko Admin of (Pawpaw Lovers Worldwide) of who has a friend (Novaya Kakhovktsv) who was supervisor outside of Crimea, on a Victoria related breed program, from Prolific cultivar, working on siblings of Victoria.
(Novaya Kakhovktsv) claims original tree got destroyed & she will try to find out if scions of any of the premium Victoria seedlings made it out.
Siblings of Vitoria (Krynychka 24-1 & Krynychka 24-2) made it out Jan 2026 to Timothy Lane.
But that the research area got flooded when the Russians destroyed the Dam.
So maybe if (Victoria cross) is real, Timothy Lane can get it out, during this Winter.
If so (Tim & Cliff) will graft it.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 5 days ago
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Prima 1216, the Best Seedling of 1000 Sunflower Seedlings grown in Italy, Self-Fertile, Near Seedless. Heavy bloomer.

Very productive heat tolerant tree, which is vigorous in zones 9a & 9b, but a slow grower in the North.
Lots of fruit per square foot of orchard, shippable, longer shelf life than most.
Mild flavored fruit with Sunflower & Shenandoah like aromas.
It's one of the cultivars chosen by the Parthenocarpic PawPaw Breeders group as the FEMALE.
Full 100% (Potomac & Susquehanna) DNA will be passed into it via Tetraploid Pollen.
Goal compact heat & drought tolerant seedless (Potomac & Susquehanna).
Robert Dalton of u/Raleighpawpaw will work on Potomac & Timothy Lane on Susquehanna.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 6 days ago
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I personally know in many species the precursor metabolites for some of the:
(anthocyanins & lycopenes as well as terpenes) are made by the roots!
Ortet = "Original Tree"
'Chambly #2' & 'Noel Blanc'--are 2 addition Canadian White pawpaw.
Timothy Lane--"Okay so -- the story with NC-1 is intriguing.
I was up in Farnham, QC last week, visiting Vincent Renaud to learn about what he's doing, share information and most of all, to learn.
The ortet (from which this scion comes; an original sucker) has pale white flesh.
What's passed around as NC-1 has a butter-yellow flesh.
I have two trees from two sources, both have this quality, as well as the cultivar's dramatic green leaves to boot.
This poses an interesting question:
How does rootstock affect phenotype?
I am inclined to think the flesh color may change depending on the rootstock.
After all, we do have the genetics of NC-1, yes?
It could be that there are dominant/recessive mechanics at work.
There are also a fair amount of pale-fleshed pawpaws in the surrounding area and in Quebec. Vincent has also selected 'Chambly #2,' 'Noel Blanc', being two additional ones, which may be descended from NC-1."
I forgot to add vigor to my posts about whites:
Horn is a slow grower, low vigor-Off White
Florence has medium vigor-White
Gran Blanc has high vigor-White
Victoria is unknown on vigor
SAA-Overleese is high vigor light yellow.
Titan is High vigor light yellow.
'Chambly #2' & 'Noel Blanc'-Claimed White & being field tested by Timothy Lane.
Ortet NC-1 could be another White pawpaw.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 7 days ago
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Bass White is being field tested in Zone 6a to see how well it does in cold environments.
It's one of juiciest of all pawpaw, texture is like "Mango" cultivar.
Seed percentage is kinda sorta a little high, but not many pawpaw do well in California Zone 9B.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 7 days ago
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Al Horn White is (FREE-STONE) with very thick almost crumbly viscus Coconut Cherimoya pawpaw which is very starchy & almost as sweet as Shenandoah.
It's very unique.
demand has always been higher than supply due to few places carrying it even though marketed over 25 years now.
Clifford England's Al Horn White is at least 27 years old.
Cliff has planted Nyomi's Delicious a 27Brix early pawpaw on one side of it.
And MWab or Mbash on the opposite side of Horn.
these 3 trees are isolated, so seeds of these will be crosses.
(Horn x Nyomi) & (Horn x Mwab)
MWab is a (Mango x Wabash) cross that early late season.
Vendor links right side of the webpage.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 8 days ago
▲ 43 r/Pawpaws

very high quality, huge, luscious pineapple-flavored pawpaw extended harvest. (3.5%) seeds.
Limited vendor sources.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 8 days ago

If serious about SAB Overleese contact Kirk Pomper or Sheri Crabtree,
as they can get a hold of Mark Debard

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 8 days ago
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Not much info able. great cultivar but higher maintenance cost of fruit thinning & spraying.
tends to bare pedicels branching off of other pedicels!
nightmare thinning for farmers!
Since the research felt that it wasn't a cost effective cultivar even though exceptional fruit quality, it never get adopted by nursers for propagation.
going to be difficult to find a collector with a 25 to 30 year old SAB-Overleeves.
I recommend contacting Ron Powell of National Pawpaw Growers or Clifford England.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 8 days ago
▲ 46 r/Pawpaws

AL-Horn PawPaw is slightly off "White" with the firmest flesh of all pawpaw.
Horn White is firmer than even Susquehanna.
It's the mildest of all pawpaw & not as sweet as Shenandoah.
It's Big & slightly seedy, with a unique flavor that some people go crazy for to the point that there has always been a waiting list.
Developed by Al Horn from a wild selection West of his home.
They have an annual PawPaw Festival is interested.
They specialize in a wide variety of fruits on the (WILD SIDE).

https://hornfarmcenter.org/pawpawfest/

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 9 days ago

SAA-Overleese has a rich complex flavor with long aroma duration.
(Overleese x Sweet Alice) cross.
Overleese is a mild complex fruit with Cantaloupe flavors & few seeds & used to make Shenandoah.
Sweet Alice is an super sweet ultra intense flavored, seedy pawpaw of variable size from small to very large pawpaw.
SAA-Overleese is their LOVE CHILD.
Uniform size, medium seed count, color break, all of bunch ripens together, easy to see in the tree, vigorous, high yields.
Harvest Late September in most areas.
Light Yellow inside.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 9 days ago
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Some have proposed that this very old cultivar would be a good choice for breeding cultivars for the North.
Many people in Zone 4 have been planting it's seeds & developing Zone 4 PawPaw.
I'm in communication with someone from a Wisconsin Gardening group.
More updates later.

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 9 days ago
▲ 187 r/Pawpaws

Now you can have a Susquehanna like pawpaw fruit,
that's twice as big as the Susquehanna pawpaw with 3 times as many fruits per tree!
"Seedumus Maximus" is more (Self-Fertile) than (Prima or Sunflower) & tastes better too.
Self-Fertile trees grow more true from seed!!!
Sell to friends so they can grow good tasting pawpaw too!
Plus sell the pawpaw seeds to others for profit.
It's the best of both worlds.
Scions available soon, so stay tuned to the announcement.
You can make PawPaw jewelry to sell at the Fair & PawPaw Festival.
Bragging rights on fishing trips.
Make good fishing floats when dried.
#Susquehanna #Pawpaw #SelfFertile

u/AlexanderDeGrape — 9 days ago