u/AeoniumJohn

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Here's my rubrolineatum, it's a reddish form with relatively few markings compared to some other forms. It predominantly gets the midstripe on the top of the leaves and some markings on the underside, but thats about it! (photos from a couple years ago)

u/AeoniumJohn — 11 days ago

'Kiwi' is one of the most commonly cultivated and sold Aeoniums, often seen for sale in big box stores, and as a staple of many succulent collections. But in my opinion, there seems to be a lot of misinformation surrounding this cultivar.

Firstly, Harry Mak first published this plant in Photo Album of Succulents in Color as Aeonium haworthii 'Dream Color'. The name 'Kiwi' was only published later by Schulz. Thus, the name 'Dream Color' takes precedence over 'Kiwi', and this plant should technically be called Aeonium haworthii 'Dream Color'.

However, this runs into an even bigger problem: a comparison of the reversion of Aeonium 'Kiwi' and Aeonium haworthii reveals that they are not the same! In fact, Aeonium 'Kiwi' is not a variegated form of Aeonium haworthii as was previously thought.

Aeonium haworthii typically has glaucous (waxy) leaves while the revert has non-glaucous, shiny leaves. (In fact, in the photo comparing the leaves, you will notice a slight thumbprint left in the waxy coating of the haworthii leaf from when I separated the leaf from the plant). You will also notice that 'Kiwi' leaves are somewhere intermediate of haworthii and decorum, being less broad towards the tip than pure haworthii, but not as slim as decorum. (note: Aeonium decorum is a variable species, the form pictured is not representative of all A. decorum).

In reality, I suspect that Aeonium 'Kiwi' is a variegated hybrid between Aeonium haworthii and Aeonium decorum.

u/AeoniumJohn — 12 days ago

Hey all, I just wanted to share the markings on the leaf undersides of this hybrid. 😄 These are passed down from the Aeonium simsii grandparent. A couple Aeonium species have idioblasts - specialized water storage structures - which appear elongated in the case of A. simsii (and a bit rounder on spathulatum and smithii). I'm a big fan of simsii hybrids and I've done a couple of these complex crosses with simsii. With each cross with species without idioblasts, the idioblasts become thinner and more numerous, until the simsii parentage is so diluted that they are no longer visible... I guess at some point they would not be considered idioblasts anymore. A. simsii has idioblasts on the top of the leaves, but this is much less visible in most of the hybrids. I hope to produce future hybrids with markings on the top of the leaves, perhaps crossing with simsii (again), or spathulatum/smithii could produce the results that I want...

u/AeoniumJohn — 19 days ago

I saw this form of Aeonium haworthii at the UC Berkeley botanical garden. It seems to be much smaller than the haworthiis that I've grown (rosettes smaller than 2") and with pointier leaves (kind of like decorum). Could this be haworthii introgressed with other species? Or just a dwarf form? Curious to hear everyone's thoughts...

u/AeoniumJohn — 22 days ago

I promise I this will be my last ID post for a while! I get some of my plants from friends and neighbors, and they rarely come with any sort of identification. I would love to hear anyone's opinion about these plants:

  1. Small 1-1.5" rosettes with strong offsetting habit.
  2. simsii hybrid, similar to 'Maximus' but smaller (5-6" rosettes). Maybe x velutinum but I'm not sure!
  3. simsii hybrid, could it be a different form of A. x lidii? The form of x lidii I have has more lanceolate/pointy leaves.
  4. Possibly a balsamiferum hybrid, which is odd, since I received it from a friend in the South SF Bay Area. The leaves do not have the balsamiferum scent and are smooth.

https://preview.redd.it/fep9bt4ej1wg1.jpg?width=1590&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a500ae20f99682d09655e4f3af6d861d61b78baf

https://preview.redd.it/s48o8ihfj1wg1.jpg?width=1378&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7deb7fa3504058fff1ea84e9f3e38d4e73ec7e5b

https://preview.redd.it/7k544tpgj1wg1.jpg?width=1686&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7c80c565d8c2cc1e8cfedc7fc4f7c5c5cc042a0

https://preview.redd.it/mvhuwsvhj1wg1.png?width=1840&format=png&auto=webp&s=9b8b172c61ab24b6d30fad7debea3af7eb0db157

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u/AeoniumJohn — 25 days ago

I'm certainly new to the Aeonium hybridization game but here are a few that I have made over the last few years:

A. haworthii x undulatum

https://preview.redd.it/56xtc2swegvg1.jpg?width=1192&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e084e82ddf75fddf7fb22e81dc6868bb336de69

A. xlidii x decorum (small decorum form)- sadly turned out very typical looking

https://preview.redd.it/lju3b6lafgvg1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46ec4de0767548605719301a7eb22d61257e39a2

A. 'Zwartkin' x decorum (large decorum form)

https://preview.redd.it/igj8ctkmegvg1.jpg?width=1138&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=299346aabb12c5b2b46f595bf6476d6b8efcf1cf

p.s. this is my first time posting on reddit, so hopefully I'm not making any mistakes!

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u/AeoniumJohn — 28 days ago