u/AWanderingRonin

Hello,
I noticed in some artwork like the ones you see with the two crusaders here is that they had some kind of covering over their helmet. Is that historically accurate? Some people say they saw this from the local people in the middle east and over time adopted it themselves. I’m aware of the 14th century torse and lambrequin being more common but I was wondering if it’s also plausible during the late 13th century? Im trying to recreate a late 13th century crusading knight set of armor and I want to be accurate with the details.

Hello gents,

I’m in the process of getting a crusader great helm custom ordered. I’m taking into account my head measurements and padding. I read that knights also had a cervelliere or skull cap on top of their padded coif and either under the maille or right on top before donning the crusader helmet itself. My question to the community is that for the crusader helm, should I request the extra padding/suspension system or not, despite having a cervelliere, padding and a mail coif?

And I suppose as an additional question would a cervelliere be necessary or optional in order to cut down on costs and simply have the mail coif and padding?