u/ASourApple

Hi everyone, I’m a Voli OTP who decided to pick up Kayn since the split. This is my first year grinding ranked and I’ve peaked at Plat II. Although I love Voli, I’ve been feeling his weaknesses a bit more and have been wanting to OTP another champ for the time being.

I love Kayns character design, the flexibility of choosing Rhaast / Assassin after seeing the draft is really useful and he clears well. What I’m struggling with the most right now is getting form (takes me 10/11 mins even if I deliberately gank much more) and understanding what his powerspike and fighting patterns are.

With Voli I understand when I’m strong, can push his limits, and where he excels but with Kayn I’ve struggled in early game skirmishes (1 item fights) and pushing my leads so my very simple and probably stupid question is:

When is Kayn (Rhaast/Assassin) strong? Does he need certain levels (Urgot, 9) or items (Voli, DnD, Navori/Shojin)? Does he straight up stat check enemies or does he need to weave in and out of fights while his cooldowns refresh? just haven’t figured out how to pilot and push the champ in an optimal way.

Was reading through a lot of the other subs and noticed many discussions regarding changes to itemization or experimentation in builds.

I’ve been trying to find a way to find a way to incorporate Endless Hunger into builds (in place of Navori & Shojin) by building tanky AD items (Tri, Steraks, DD, etc) + the new boots to ramp up a lot of omnivamp and it’s been fun but definitely not sure of it’s viability in ranked (im only plat 2).

Have you all come across anything that’s a different experience to the classic D&D into Navor/Shojin?